craigkillie Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Can't see any issues whatsoever in showing the viewer cartoons rather than the real picture. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Heard the "millions of pounds on the line, need to get the decisons right" shite again tonight. Maybe it's true but it's only between one billionaire club and another. It's like me and you having a fiver bet in the pub. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibsFan Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 17 minutes ago, Clown Job said: I know we won’t see this here, but this is the new technology they used tonight in the CL Bayern Leverkusen player rules offside I'm really glad that clear and obvious error was corrected, we'd have looked like right idiots if that had been allowed to stand! Spoiler I would never tire of hospitalising the sort of people who think this is a good thing for football. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 That'll get the crowds clamouring to get into games. Simply no possible way this will be a galactic standard catastrofuck 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 6 hours ago, Clown Job said: I know we won’t see this here, but this is the new technology they used tonight in the CL Bayern Leverkusen player rules offside fucking hell 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 7 hours ago, Clown Job said: I know we won’t see this here, but this is the new technology they used tonight in the CL Bayern Leverkusen player rules offside eSports forum for this shite 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 Remember as well that unless a game is on TV you'll be waiting until Sportscene to see such nonsense. Screens at grounds don't show this; they just announce that there's a VAR check and what it is for (e.g. offside, serious foul play etc). Also not all Premiership grounds have screens anyway, so you won't know what the VAR check is for much of the time. Even if your game is on TV, you'll need to whip your phone out and get the replay via whatever Sky app shows the games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 9 hours ago, Clown Job said: I know we won’t see this here, but this is the new technology they used tonight in the CL Bayern Leverkusen player rules offside This stuff is the biggest bit of seethe inducing mission creep ever - VAR started so that the big, travesty level decisions could be sorted (which was at least an arguable use case) - now we've got circa 2002 Pro Evo graphics showing that someone's toenail is "offside". I will never not be raging that Scottish football just blindly adopted this shite as a sop to TV companies and, bizarrely, Referees. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 9 hours ago, craigkillie said: Can't see any issues whatsoever in showing the viewer cartoons rather than the real picture. Not sure if you're serious or not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 28 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: Remember as well that unless a game is on TV you'll be waiting until Sportscene to see such nonsense. Screens at grounds don't show this; they just announce that there's a VAR check and what it is for (e.g. offside, serious foul play etc). Also not all Premiership grounds have screens anyway, so you won't know what the VAR check is for much of the time. Even if your game is on TV, you'll need to whip your phone out and get the replay via whatever Sky app shows the games. At the stadiums without screens, the VAR check and the reason should be announced over the PA. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 40 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: At the stadiums without screens, the VAR check and the reason should be announced over the PA. How many stadiums have a suitably clear PA for that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, craigkillie said: How many stadiums have a suitably clear PA for that? No idea. I know St. Mirren, the OF, Hibs and Hearts have screens. I also know the PA at SMP was overhauled during the covid season and is perfectly clear. The only other Premiership stadium I've been to since fans were allowed to re-attend is Livingston which also sounded clear. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starryfish Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 No word of screens being installed at Pittodrie? Would think they could invest in them now and take them with them to the new stadium…… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuttonDressedAsLahm Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 11 hours ago, craigkillie said: Can't see any issues whatsoever in showing the viewer cartoons rather than the real picture. The alternative is lines draw across the pitch where incessant whining on Twitter every week is that the pixels are too wide and the lines are drawn in the wrong locations. The benefit of the virtual image is that those moans disappear - and unsurprisingly replaced with dissent likes yours. Law 11 wasn't written for technology like this. You cannot square that circle without fundamentally changing something key to the game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 As soon as the picture being shown is not "real" and is being represented by a cartoon, you are taking the viewer another step further away from seeing what actually happened. This isn't like tennis or cricket where it's just the trajectory of a ball, it's a representation of a situation with lots of moving parts, and I don't like the notion of not being given an image of the reality, anything else is far too open to manipulation. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletchers Saucy Manbun Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 11 hours ago, Clown Job said: I know we won’t see this here, but this is the new technology they used tonight in the CL Bayern Leverkusen player rules offside Brought to you by soulless, joyless, busybody cretins. As well running the game through a fucking spreadsheet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuttonDressedAsLahm Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 44 minutes ago, craigkillie said: As soon as the picture being shown is not "real" and is being represented by a cartoon, you are taking the viewer another step further away from seeing what actually happened. This isn't like tennis or cricket where it's just the trajectory of a ball, it's a representation of a situation with lots of moving parts, and I don't like the notion of not being given an image of the reality, anything else is far too open to manipulation. Manipulation? That's a tad foil helmetty is it not? I'd tend to agree, but then I see every weekend people complaining about how two lines aren't in parallel because they don't understand how angles work when viewed from a fixed point. Whilst in a perfect world, we would accept the TV pictures with pixel-perfect lines, football fans, players, coaches, pundits refuse to accept it - so this is where we are. For now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 I haven't played FM for several years now (it just got too ridiculously overcomplicated for me), but do recent iterations have VAR included? Can imagine that's another reason for rage-quitting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 1 hour ago, starryfish said: No word of screens being installed at Pittodrie? Would think they could invest in them now and take them with them to the new stadium…… They'd be clarted in seagull shite by the start of the second half. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, Clown Job said: I know we won’t see this here, but this is the new technology they used tonight in the CL Bayern Leverkusen player rules offside Ah, progress. Edited September 8, 2022 by Melanius Mullarkay 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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