Salt n Vinegar Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 46 minutes ago, Zen Archer (Raconteur) said: Again? It was a devastating blow when the Pars went down. I'm sure the city thing will soften the blow considerably. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said: It was a devastating blow when the Pars went down. I'm sure the city thing will soften the blow considerably. Devastating in that who else are Sevco going to find to lie down for them and take a humping when needed? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Just now, Newbornbairn said: Devastating in that who else are Sevco going to find to lie down for them and take a humping when needed? Dearie me. In the case if Dunfermline, I'd be more interested in Dunfermline more often sh!tting the bed against Raith, rather than anyone else! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 32 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said: It was a devastating blow when the Pars went down. I'm sure the city thing will soften the blow considerably. It's not going to be as devastating as when Dunfermline Athletic went into administration in 2013. Luckily Pars fans are a resilient bunch who care about their football club so they got off their collective arse and did something They got through that, they'll get through this. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 14 hours ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: Similarly it would be silly expecting people from further afield to know that Loanhead is just over the county line which is why it’s called “IKEA Edinburgh” Unlike Glasgow Edinburgh’s bypass doesn’t run through the middle of the city so it can serve as a physical and psychological border even though it doesn’t coincide with the administrative one so to people from the city Loanhead is definitely outside I believe that Dundonians have a Dobbies garden centre that does something similar Edinburgh's southern border used to be the Jordan burn (now mostly culverted although you can see a wee bit of it near Cameron Toll) I suppose we started annexing places like Liberton in the late 19th Century. I always think of places like Danderhall and Mayfield as separate but they seem to be lumped in with Greater Dalkeith 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 19 hours ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: It's not going to be as devastating as when Dunfermline Athletic went into administration in 2013. Luckily Pars fans are a resilient bunch who care about their football club so they got off their collective arse and did something They got through that, they'll get through this. 0p to the pound being accepted meant they didn't need to do much fundraising. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Imagine being given city status, elevating your locale and all its denizens and placing it in the national psyche, then appointing James McPake as the manager of said city's football team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Edinburgh's southern border used to be the Jordan burn (now mostly culverted although you can see a wee bit of it near Cameron Toll) I suppose we started annexing places like Liberton in the late 19th Century. I always think of places like Danderhall and Mayfield as separate but they seem to be lumped in with Greater DalkeithThe burns at Cameron Toll are marked pow burn and Braid BurnHave I missed something? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 The burns at Cameron Toll are marked pow burn and Braid BurnHave I missed something?Jordan and Pow are the same burn iirc. Long time since I was down that way so maybe have it wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 The Pow is another name for the Jordan burn. Powburn, near West Savile* Terrace was an early Edinburgh football ground *Not that one.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 The Pow is another name for the Jordan burn. Powburn, near West Savile* Terrace was an early Edinburgh football ground *Not that one.... It was the Edinburgh FA's ground so local cup finals were played there and in the days before a national league, local cup finals were a big deal. For a few years Hearts move their big games to Powburn before they settled in Gorgie. St Bernards operated out of Powburn for a while as well before relocating to Stockbridge. Chances are there were other Edinburgh sides at the dawn that based themselves there as well. Obviously as far as you’re concerned real Edinburgh football history starts in 1928 so this is like the Jurassic period 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milton75 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 On 20/05/2022 at 20:26, BFTD said: Stirling was the nearest town to the wee village in the Trossachs that most of my mum's family grew up in. I spent a lot of time there as a wean, and loved the place. Still do, if I'm honest. I've no idea what dirty outsiders would make of it, although everyone seems to think it's a very pretty place, and there's plenty to explore for people who like history. Also, incredibly, still the home of the infamous Fubar, and they tell me it's still a good town to get utterly stocious in. Obviously not a patch on Alloa, but what can you do. Aberfoyle? I went to the butcher there recently. Got some nice beef. True story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milton75 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 On 22/05/2022 at 23:58, Archie McSquackle said: On 22/05/2022 at 18:59, Aim Here said: If you want to quibble, Paisley is part of Greater Glasgow, in that Glasgow, like a lot of cities, has outgrown it's original boundaries, and becomes a sprawling conurbation, prefixed by 'Greater'. Just as Pimlico and Hackney aren't part of the City of London, but are definitely part of Greater London (and anyone from Greater London would be conventionally referred to as a Londoner - the city of London boundaries only house a few thousand people), Paisley is, unequivocally, and officially part of the locality of Greater Glasgow, like Bearsden and Bellshill. Here's an official document by the Scottish National Records Office, mirroring the General Registry of Scotland and it's definition of the Greater Glasgow locality, which very much includes Paisley. There's more precise documents and ESRI shapefiles, if you're a borderline case, but it's pretty clear that the bulk of Paisley is part of Greater Glasgow. https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/files//statistics/settlements-localities/set-loc-16/settlements-localities-background-info.pdf I'm sorry you have to hear about it this way, but unfortunately, Scotland has officially marked you down as a weegie. Hope this helps. Bearsden yes, Paisley maybe but I wouldn't see Bellshill as part of Greater Glasgow. Properly in deepest Lanarkshire with non-built up areas in between. Exactly what non-built-up areas between Glasgow and Paisley? There's a few fields beside the motorway and railway line, and a couple of golf courses, but otherwise it's city sprawl as far as I can see. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 minute ago, milton75 said: Aberfoyle? I went to the butcher there recently. Got some nice beef. True story. Aye, and Gartmore. They're all deid now. Last time I was over that way it was just...grim, knowing all my ties to that area are gone. Can't even bring myself to post a Kenneth with regard to you receiving some juicy beef over the counter. Sad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milton75 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 I used to know folk in Gartmore when I was a kid. We would play in the grounds of that big house that had some cult living in it at the time. Nice wee place iirc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie McSquackle Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Exactly what non-built-up areas between Glasgow and Paisley? There's a few fields beside the motorway and railway line, and a couple of golf courses, but otherwise it's city sprawl as far as I can see. You do realise my post was mainly about Bellshill? I couldn't care less about Paisley and certainly can't be arsed arguing about it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 28 minutes ago, Archie McSquackle said: 2 hours ago, milton75 said: Exactly what non-built-up areas between Glasgow and Paisley? There's a few fields beside the motorway and railway line, and a couple of golf courses, but otherwise it's city sprawl as far as I can see. You do realise my post was mainly about Bellshill? I couldn't care less about Paisley and certainly can't be arsed arguing about it. Bellshill also appears to merge seamlessly into Uddingston which merges seamlessly into Baillieston. Even if there is a genuinely significant difference between the three it's not going to be obvious to the outsider which if any are actual Glasgow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Do us Glaswegians not get a day in whether or not we want Paisley as a suburb? If we do, the answer is 100% no. We have enough of a shithole already 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milton75 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Archie McSquackle said: 3 hours ago, milton75 said: Exactly what non-built-up areas between Glasgow and Paisley? There's a few fields beside the motorway and railway line, and a couple of golf courses, but otherwise it's city sprawl as far as I can see. You do realise my post was mainly about Bellshill? I couldn't care less about Paisley and certainly can't be arsed arguing about it. Ah, fair enough. But... 39 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: Bellshill also appears to merge seamlessly into Uddingston which merges seamlessly into Baillieston. Even if there is a genuinely significant difference between the three it's not going to be obvious to the outsider which if any are actual Glasgow ...what he said. It's really only big motorway junctions that separate Bellshill from Coatbridge and Uddingston from Tannochside and Then Broomhouse. Even East Kilbride seems to now only have a tiny bit of countryside between it and Blantyre/Hamilton, and I'm sure that wasn't the case when I were a lad. I don't really care for so much sprawl on greenfield sites. Loads of the building in the last 50 years could have involved cleaning up brownfield. There's still plenty of that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, milton75 said: Even East Kilbride seems to now only have a tiny bit of countryside between it and Blantyre/Hamilton, and I'm sure that wasn't the case when I were a lad. Aye, it's changed a wee bit... Kind of forget that 1% of it isn't dual carriageways, roundabouts or some other form of concrete: Edited May 25, 2022 by Hedgecutter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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