Let's All Laugh at the Royalist Nats and Greens

[Ad Lib]

FWIW I think Albus Bulbasaur is quite a good username. It's a shame it had to be wasted on this person(a).

[Miguel Sanchez]

I have a theory about who Scott Steiner was, but (one of) the person(s) I thought it was no longer posts, so I can't prove anything. 

[Albus Bulbasaur]

53 minutes ago, Ad Lib said:

FWIW I think Albus Bulbasaur is quite a good username. It's a shame it had to be wasted on this person(a).

Harsh. My positions are generally despicable centrist opinions but other than that they're very reasonable. My only crime is being sucked into silly puerile online arguments where nobody comes out looking good.  

[Jeff Venom]

I see Stormzy is entering the third and final act of this latest alias.

[welshbairn]

I just wish that everyone could stick with the same names, including mods. Unless you're banned obviously, in which case don't post the same boring shite that got you banned the last time.

Edited May 3, 2022 by welshbairn

[Detournement]

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/questions-mounting-over-approach-to-scotlands-ps700m-offshore-wind-auction-3682457

Dodgy as f**k.

 

 

[Duries Air Freshener]

1 minute ago, Detournement said:

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/questions-mounting-over-approach-to-scotlands-ps700m-offshore-wind-auction-3682457

Dodgy as f**k.

 

 

Corrupt to the core.

[D Angelo Barksdale]

That sell off has huge Tory vibes tbh.

[The_Kincardine]

On 01/05/2022 at 06:42, Ad Lib said:

No it isn’t and no it doesn’t. It is a union state (not a unitary state) and it’s a constitutional policy choice who gets to make any decisions.

I know that you like to bluster, mate, but if you think Britain isn't a unitary nation you should resign from your job.

[Ad Lib]

2 hours ago, The_Kincardine said:

I know that you like to bluster, mate, but if you think Britain isn't a unitary nation you should resign from your job.

Britain is and always has been a union state, not a unitary state, because its founding Treaty recognised, from the outset, continued asymmetry and special arrangements for its constituent nations, including their legal systems and established churches.

Politically, it even less resembles a unitary state than it ever has precisely because of devolution and the sub-state democratic mandates on which those three systems of devolution are based.

Go and read some Neil Walker, some Michael Keating too, in fact pretty much any respectable constitutional lawyer or British political scientist from the last sixty years, then get back to me.

[The_Kincardine]

2 hours ago, Ad Lib said:

Britain is and always has been a union state, not a unitary state

Indeed not.  Britain is the apotheosis of a unitary state.  That's what the entire A of U is all about.

As for devolution?  Always the gift of Westminster.  "Power devolved is power retained".

I don't have to go and read anything.  You clearly misunderstand Britain's constitutional settlement.  This is no surprise.

 

[D Angelo Barksdale]

[Benjamin_Nevis]

10 hours ago, The_Kincardine said:

I know that you like to bluster, mate, but if you think Britain isn't a unitary nation you should resign from your job.

 

7 hours ago, Ad Lib said:

Britain is and always has been a union state, not a unitary state, because its founding Treaty recognised, from the outset, continued asymmetry and special arrangements for its constituent nations, including their legal systems and established churches.

Politically, it even less resembles a unitary state than it ever has precisely because of devolution and the sub-state democratic mandates on which those three systems of devolution are based.

Go and read some Neil Walker, some Michael Keating too, in fact pretty much any respectable constitutional lawyer or British political scientist from the last sixty years, then get back to me.

 

5 hours ago, The_Kincardine said:

Indeed not.  Britain is the apotheosis of a unitary state.  That's what the entire A of U is all about.

As for devolution?  Always the gift of Westminster.  "Power devolved is power retained".

I don't have to go and read anything.  You clearly misunderstand Britain's constitutional settlement.  This is no surprise.

 

This is a tricky one. 

Do I take on board the opinions of someone who's literally studied this material in presumably considerable depth for years, OR do we go with the inane 2am ramblings of an angry (and probably half-pished) bigot?

What to do. 

 

[Wee Bully]

Oh dear.  

I wonder if, with the major “truth” of his life unravelling, Kincy will just explode now.  Poor chap.

[Dan Steele]

Top Tip for would be debaters: if you want you arguments to be taken the least bit seriously and not ending up looking out of your depth, avoid the phrase "I don't have to go and read anything".

[Ad Lib]

19 hours ago, The_Kincardine said:

Indeed not.  Britain is the apotheosis of a unitary state.  That's what the entire A of U is all about.

It really isn't. The vast majority of the Act of Union is about the detail of things that will remain different in Scotland and in England and how that difference will be managed.

19 hours ago, The_Kincardine said:

As for devolution?  Always the gift of Westminster.  "Power devolved is power retained".

Except, of course, that no court has ever definitively ruled that Parliamentary sovereignty is absolute, or that the Treaties of Union place no limits on them. This informs the extent to which the constitutional conditions giving rise to devolution are the product of pure Westminster sentiments or more fundamental principles of a state founded on the mutual bargaining of formerly independent nations.

Go and read Lord Hope in Jackson v Attorney General.

Go and read Lord Cooper of Culross in MacCormick v Lord Advocate.

Go and read Lord Keith in Gibson v Lord Advocate.

These are not unresolved questions.

19 hours ago, The_Kincardine said:

I don't have to go and read anything.  You clearly misunderstand Britain's constitutional settlement.  This is no surprise.

You are indeed correct that you are under no obligation to relieve yourself of your own childish ignorance.

[D Angelo Barksdale]

[Albus Bulbasaur]

This is particularly vile. 

 

[D Angelo Barksdale]

More evidence that Westminster is absolutely hoaching with perverts, nonces and deviants.

Shut it down 

[Albus Bulbasaur]