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Just now, Ro Sham Bo said:

If he was that good you'd expect him to be making more of a mark in club football than he is. 

Not saying he's not good, just not that good. 

I think he will, give him a bit of time and a decent team to play with and he will shine.

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If he was that good you'd expect him to be making more of a mark in club football than he is. 

He spent last season trying to break into a team that won the Champions League and was kept out the team by someone who won the Euros. I think we can forgive him for not having made his mark yet.
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Memories of game in Cyprus 1989,  when we won 3-2 in injury time
I watched that game in Glasgow's western infirmary the day after having my appendix removed. I threw up on the floor the very second that Cyprus scored their second goal to go in front and came very close to bursting my stitches when Richard Gough headed in the winner.
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What a game, and to quote the proverbial, the typical game of two halves right enough.  Everything that was wrong about the first half suddenly changed second, which was probably one of the best 45 minutes I've seen in a long time from Scotland.

In many ways I'm glad Stevie Clarke didn't change anything second half.  Because as much as we were awful at times at the back, there were signs that we had offensively ways of clicking, the first goal a real example of that.  He could quite easily as well have subbed off Patterson after what was, and I'm probably being kind here, a nervy first 45.  He grew second half, as did arguably a lot of players, Gilmour included.

I can understand some of the stick he takes, but I don't care, for me I wouldn't have Lyndon Dykes out the team.  In actual fact, if we are playing a two up front as we did tonight, we need someone different to Che Adams in there (pains me to say it as I quite like Adams up front).   The two for me are two similar.  You look at Dabbur and Zahavi for Israel, players who can pull the defence out of position and generally have movement way above our front two, we just don't have that with Adams and Dykes.  But for me, Dykes does more of the hard work, i.e. bullying defences and generally causing problems with his strength, and his finish was superb given the let-down of missing the penalty.  I'd actually stick Nisbet in there, he has that quickness of movement and can offer something a bit different I reckon.

Will be good to have Hanley back, we badly missed him tonight.  Hopefully then releases McTominay into midfield, as I thought coming out of defence, he did some great work second half.

All in all, draining but f**k me we've a real chance of making this World Cup.  Gotta belive now!

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45 minutes ago, Tartan Blood said:

Diasgree. Gilmour has joined Robertson on the same planet. And quite a few orbitting, ready to land. 

Every time we upgrade a position, it makes games like this possible. Patterson will (hopefully) show he is the next upgrade. No disrespect to their predecessors, but the team seems to be getting stronger and stronger every few months right now.

The big worry for me going forward is Goalkeeper. Gordon could quite easily make Qatar, but where do we go after that?

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In normal circumstances the ball comes off McTominay’s chest up on to the bar and he passes underneath as the ball drops and gets cleared.

We have changed.

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32 minutes ago, Ro Sham Bo said:

I like Gilmour but this sort of stuff is garbage. I wonder how many world greats would've be been dropped by Norwich like he has? 

He'll be a very good player for Scotland but he's not exactly somebody that will be getting ballon d'or nominations. 

I've given this a wee screen shot for posterity. 

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1 minute ago, Todd_is_God said:

Massive fan of that Gilmour tackle btw. The bit of dig that's often missing in international football.

I think thats for a reason though. Was happy to see that sort of determination but at European/international level you must get it dead on or asking for trouble.

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2 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

The big worry for me going forward is Goalkeeper. Gordon could quite easily make Qatar, but where do we go after that?

Your best bets are Liam Kelly and Robbie McCrorie, neither of whom seem to be quite ready for full international football just yet.

For the first time in most of our lifetimes, there's a genuine drought of Scottish goalkeeping talent.

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1 hour ago, BingMcCrosby said:

In the first half we looked like the away team, if you think that was an attacking team fair enough.

The team may have looked attacking on paper, in reality it was very defensive.

He made changes at half time at we saved the game in the end. If you read before I actually predicted us to win. And was correct. So im happy, and happy for him.

If you look at the post from the first half there are many many posts slating Clarke and the team. Mine are very mild by comparison. Perhaps its time to let your wee grudge with me go. And concentrate on the national team you claim to support.

Im guessing to constantly bring up where I was born would suggest its not me who has the grudge, Im just suggesting to  have more of an open mind on and off the pitch.

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7 minutes ago, gannonball said:

I think thats for a reason though. Was happy to see that sort of determination but at European/international level you must get it dead on or asking for trouble.

Absolutely. But there's a definite feeling that this group enjoy playing together and have a genuine desire to win. A bit like, dare I say it, the team spirit England have developed.

You love to see it.

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42 minutes ago, Biscuits said:
53 minutes ago, Tartan Blood said:
Diasgree. Gilmour has joined Robertson on the same planet. And quite a few orbitting, ready to land. 
Every time we upgrade a position, it makes games like this possible. Patterson will (hopefully) show he is the next upgrade. No disrespect to their predecessors, but the team seems to be getting stronger and stronger every few months right now.

Can't agree. Every time I see Andy Robertson playing for Liverpool I think he's fuckin awesome. Can't say the same when he pulls on a Scotland shirt. Dunno if it's the VVD factor or what but I can't help but be disappointed whenever I watch him in a dark blue jersey. Anyway didn't mean to be critical tonight of all nights- thought we were fuckin awesome tonight.

Robertson absolutely stands out more when playing for Liverpool than he does playing for Scotland. Plenty of reasons for that though. Liverpool are one of the best teams in Europe and the way they play gives him licence to pretty much go forward at will. He has world class players to cover the gaps he leaves and he also has Mane etc taking up the full backs attention which gives him more space.

When he plays for Scotland has has to be much more aware of what is going on behind him and since we play with wing backs the opposition full back is going to be focused on him much more than they would domestically. Having Tierney at left centre back going forward recently has helped him over the last year though.

Dont mean any of this as a criticism of Robertson but I think a lot of people, not meaning you here, think he should be doing exactly what he does for Liverpool when he plays for Scotland but it’s just never going to happen.

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