Gordopolis Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Does he ? He was very good in the second half where he effectively played in midfield. I'm not being harsh here, but I still have seen nothing from him to suggest that he can defend at a very high level. It shouldn't be Scotland's job to develop 'potential'. That should be done at club level. A decent team would have ripped Pattertson apart, sadly. Hendry (and a few years back, Hanley) were ripped apart on here because they were ragged for Scotland - and both admittedly cost us more than once. In my eyes, both have always clearly had the potential to be what they have become/are becoming (I'm sure some OFTW will trawl my posts to check).I like Stephen O'Donnell, though we've seen that he is well capable of NPatz's first half... and, to be fair, his second half (maybe without the vision and finesse though).The question we have to ask is: are we prepared to take a calculated risk on obvious talent? Or do we wait - like the old days - for them to become an OF regular or get a big move down south? I'm in favour of the former. Tonight - although it was by a slim margin - that approach worked out positively for us.And looking forward, that 90 mins - especially the turnaround - could be formative for Patterson. I do agree the defensive fundamentals are something he needs to improve upon though - ideally at his club... though are we in a position to pick and choose like that? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ewan8472 said: Hanley must come back in for the Faroes Yeap. I feel like I'm going all Victor Meldrew here, but we have to improve our defence. In all honesty, the 2 defences tonight were pretty shocking. You'll have to look far to see more incompetence on display this weekend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meeniedee Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Just now, Fratelli said: Wee mention for Liam Cooper who came on after the goal, barked orders, moved folk into shape and then went absolutely tonto at the final whistle despite only getting a couple of minutes. He was the same after the game in Serbia despite not getting off the bench. Easy for professionals to be a bit miffed when they don't play - you could see a couple of players on the bench looking a bit static after the goal, but i get the impression he absolutely loves being a part of it and is quite an important member of the group. he had a good interview where he said he will do everything possible just to be part of this squad....he's got the right attitude...nae huffs and throwing toys out the pram...he joins the squad and if needed he'll do his best if not played he'll come again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Does the yellow card given to Lyndon Dykes at the equaliser get wiped given that the foul was overturned to a goal by VAR? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Gilmour was excellent but McGinn MotM for me. Robertson in and out but two assists should not be overlooked. So unlike Scotland to grab the winner in injury time, so looking forward to Tuesday now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meeniedee Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 i'd really like to see us atleast getting gauld into the squad and see what he's capable of doing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Does the yellow card given to Lyndon Dykes at the equaliser get wiped given that the foul was overturned to a goal by VAR?Surely (but I don't know if it has) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coooombe Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 The amount of times when Clarke was Killie manager where we'd put in an average first half performance and be behind or level, only to completely boss it in the second half was mental. Seems like it's the same for Scotland. It's always taken him 45 minutes to figure teams out but most of the time the second half performance would be enough to win the game. What an atmosphere that was. Everyone stayed for about 20 mins after the game just bouncing about, was incredible. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Ah if only football was always like that. Cracking stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, Fratelli said: Wee mention for Liam Cooper who came on after the goal, barked orders, moved folk into shape and then went absolutely tonto at the final whistle despite only getting a couple of minutes. He was the same after the game in Serbia despite not getting off the bench. Easy for professionals to be a bit miffed when they don't play - you could see a couple of players on the bench looking a bit static after the goal, but i get the impression he absolutely loves being a part of it and is quite an important member of the group. Didn’t even notice Cooper coming on 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltire Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 22 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said: Did anyone else get asked to show your vaccine passport? Not me. I did. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Didn’t even notice Cooper coming on [emoji23]Me neither! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Donathan said: Does the yellow card given to Lyndon Dykes at the equaliser get wiped given that the foul was overturned to a goal by VAR? Nope. Yellows can’t be overturned and regardless of how shit the decision was dissent is dissent… …Ref was a grade a c**t though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coooombe Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Didn't get my vaccine pass checked, and didn't see anyone else getting checked either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8MileBU Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Thank f**k for VAR (for once!) otherwise that ref might’ve got away with an utterly dreadful call and cost us a perfectly good goal. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Some 2nd half. I was seething at Dykes taking the pen even before he missed it. Would've put the house on him missing. Good goal for him though and the way it happened got everyone so fired up. I'd also been seething at the standard of our delivery into the box for the entire game until that glorious cross and flick for the winner. Israel are a limited bunch, but in the many games recently I always think they're one of the hardest working teams we've played against. Certainly no mugs and this was a huge result. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microdave Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Does the yellow card given to Lyndon Dykes at the equaliser get wiped given that the foul was overturned to a goal by VAR?It looks like it was, according to the sky scores app. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG.Roma Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Left Back said: Nope. Yellows can’t be overturned and regardless of how shit the decision was dissent is dissent… …Ref was a grade a c**t though. Not true, true and true. If the card was for the supposed dangerous play of going in with the high boot then it would have been rescinded after the VAR decision. If the card was for dissent, it will still stand. Ref was a prik 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Left Back said: Nope. Yellows can’t be overturned and regardless of how shit the decision was dissent is dissent… …Ref was a grade a c**t though. Not sure about that - before the game restarted after the VAR the ref spoke to Dykes and appeared to be explaining that his yellow was cancelled. The Robertson one was for dissent though, so no chance that one's getting rescinded. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 I watched most of the game on a stream before finishing it on Sky. The commentator on the stream said it was being rescinded by the ref at the time 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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