Cptn Hooch Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 That's his rampage being compared to video games....how long before they come out with the story of him listening to slayer and slipknot so those must be the cause? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 49 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: In what worlde does anyone need a pump action shotgun? They are quite handy in a number of digital worlds tbf. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 23 minutes ago, ICTChris said: He apparently lived in Shetland for a while and still has family there. His dad sounds a complete scumbag. I wonder what percentage of these mass shooters have violent and/or absent fathers. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/plymouth-shooter-spent-time-scotland-24757691 Complete heidbanger! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, Boo Khaki said: They are quite handy in a number of digital worlds tbf. Pump action shotgun is a euph in this incel case, shirley? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 58 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Why did this guy need, or get given, a licence for a pump action shotgun? In what worlde does anyone need a pump action shotgun? Genuinely didnt think those were legal to own. I hope they no longer will be. Absolutely this. We may have relatively strict gun laws, but they're not nearly strict enough if they permit a man living in an urban setting to legally possess such a weapon. Clearly, people have screwed up terribly here by initially granting, then recently returning his licence to him. The system enabled such human error though, and it's shocking to learn that it's still possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipperyP Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Absolutely this. We may have relatively strict gun laws, but they're not nearly strict enough if they permit a man living in an urban setting to legally possess such a weapon. Clearly, people have screwed up terribly here by initially granting, then recently returning his licence to him. The system enabled such human error though, and it's shocking to learn that it's still possible. Yes, this looks like a travesty that could have been prevented. I read the daily record report about him in Shetland, and their source mention that he had mental health issues and was not surprised that this happened. I then went and checked the Application for firearms and shotguns. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/667450/Form_201_-_21_Nov_2017_-_PDF.pdf lot's of medical procedures in place. How the f**k did he get past. His neighbours knew he mas mental, but his doctor gave him the all clear. Shocking. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, SlipperyP said: Yes, this looks like a travesty that could have been prevented. I read the daily record report about him in Shetland, and their source mention that he had mental health issues and was not surprised that this happened. I then went and checked the Application for firearms and shotguns. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/667450/Form_201_-_21_Nov_2017_-_PDF.pdf lot's of medical procedures in place. How the f**k did he get past. His neighbours knew he mas mental, but his doctor gave him the all clear. Shocking. I suppose there's a difference between people around you thinking you're rather unhinged, and you thinking it sufficiently yourself, to seek medical intervention. If he's not shown blatant signs in a setting like a workplace or school, nobody else is likely to have referred him either. I think I'm right in saying that there are no questions about family history in terms of mental health and convictions. Perhaps it would be discriminatory to ask, but it might provide markers. In a way, I'm more interested in how he accounted for why he needed a gun. It seems you have to either provide details of a club you belong to for firing at targets, or account for a rural need such as dealing with vermin in a farming context. I'm also intrigued by the referee section. What sort of person can provide a reference and how diligently are such things followed up? For me, the default answer to such applications should be no, with the absolute onus on the applicant to prove a need, and to allow all manner of background checks. It doesn't, on the face of it, look like that's the case. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 hour ago, ICTChris said: He apparently lived in Shetland for a while and still has family there. His dad sounds a complete scumbag. I wonder what percentage of these mass shooters have violent and/or absent fathers. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/plymouth-shooter-spent-time-scotland-24757691 It's important for the Record to find a "Scots" angle. Fred West was an ice cream man here you know, Donald Trump's Mother was Scottish. Anyway, "here's your killing machine back, now be good"! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Cptn Hooch said: That's his rampage being compared to video games.... It only ever works with gun rampage killings. Nobody ever scores a rabona worldie and then we get months of newspapers saying how it's all because of FIFA. Its a fucking joke. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 10 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: It's important for the Record to find a "Scots" angle. Fred West was an ice cream man here you know, Donald Trump's Mother was Scottish. Anyway, "here's your killing machine back, now be good"! Saddam Hussein used to like watching Scottish football on Sky. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mr. Alli said: It only ever works with gun rampage killings. Nobody ever scores a rabona worldie and then we get months of newspapers saying how it's all because of FIFA. Its a fucking joke. "I managed to completely revolutionise the ordering of the stock room due to hours spent on Candy Crush" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Hitler didn't bomb Edinburgh because he had an auntie living in Morningside 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Bairnardo said: Why did this guy need, or get given, a licence for a pump action shotgun? In what worlde does anyone need a pump action shotgun? Genuinely didnt think those were legal to own. I hope they no longer will be. Such obvious questions and which will surely be put to Devon & Cornwall police, and any other forces who issue licenses for pump action shotguns. It will be interesting to hear their answers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Cptn Hooch said: That's his rampage being compared to video games....how long before they come out with the story of him listening to slayer and slipknot so those must be the cause? Massive fan of Rambo and video nasties IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 15 minutes ago, Shandon Par said: Saddam Hussein used to like watching Scottish football on Sky. So there was clearly something wrong with him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 19 minutes ago, Shandon Par said: Saddam Hussein used to like watching Scottish football on Sky. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Bairnardo said: In what worlde does anyone need a pump action shotgun? It's handy in case you need to fight off the T-1000 from a Harley Davidson while he chases you down the LA River in a huge truck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 I walked a bit too far down Union Street in Plymouth one night and a pump action shotgun wouldn't go amiss. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 32 minutes ago, Boo Khaki said: Hitler didn't bomb Edinburgh because he had an auntie living in Morningside Was her surname Davidson? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Just now, Granny Danger said: Was her surname Davidson? Come on. It's Morningside, obviously double barrelled. Agnes Hitler-Davidson. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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