Man from the East Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 It's now getting very close to the time when this years competition formally starts by way of the Preliminary round draw. Many Clubs in this division will be taking part, and I hope that its success for all of them. If its not a success it'll certainly be an experience. I hope that the clubs, players, officials and supporters enjoy every minute of it - all of them have done a lot of hard work, spent time and money and no doubt many different points of view have been debated. However, now the competition is almost here. The draw will soon be made and the ties will be played in 3 weeks. Good fortune and the very best of luck to everyone involved. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld duffer Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Is there a definite date this week for the draw last I seen said it will be in week beginning 9th Aug it seems a bit vague 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 5 hours ago, Auld duffer said: Is there a definite date this week for the draw last I seen said it will be in week beginning 9th Aug it seems a bit vague Best to keep an eye on the main Scottish Cup thread in the cups forum: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld duffer Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Best to keep an eye on the main Scottish Cup thread in the cups forum: Cheers for that had a look although still not conclusive. All we know is this week Its something thousands of people will look forward to so I'm still not sure why no exact date apart from week beginning 9th Aug 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Auld duffer said: Cheers for that had a look although still not conclusive. All we know is this week Its something thousands of people will look forward to so I'm still not sure why no exact date apart from week beginning 9th Aug Hossy87 has links to Newton Stewart who will have been told when the draw would be. If they're saying it's today then it's a safe bet that it's happening today. Either way it has been poorly promoted by the SFA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld duffer Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Hossy87 has links to Newton Stewart who will have been told when the draw would be. If they're saying it's today then it's a safe bet that it's happening today. Either way it has been poorly promoted by the SFA.Yeh definitely it should be one of the big moments of the season don't think it is too big a task for the SFA to let clubs know when the draw is 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 2 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said: Hossy87 has links to Newton Stewart who will have been told when the draw would be. If they're saying it's today then it's a safe bet that it's happening today. Either way it has been poorly promoted by the SFA. While that's undoubtedly true... 1 hour ago, Hossy87 said: Yeah, it would appear I've made an arse of that Gordon - w/c 9th August 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Clubs have not yet been advised when the draw date is, only that it is this week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriot1 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Burnieman said: Clubs have not yet been advised when the draw date is, only that it is this week. A ridiculous state of affairs. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mantis Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 41 minutes ago, patriot1 said: A ridiculous state of affairs. Not that many years since the 1st/2nd round draws were made a big deal. Not only warned well in advance, but had a couple of good trips to Buchanan Galleries, filmed for tv with the Cup, then Edinburgh Castle the next year. Poor stuff this. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld duffer Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Not that many years since the 1st/2nd round draws were made a big deal. Not only warned well in advance, but had a couple of good trips to Buchanan Galleries, filmed for tv with the Cup, then Edinburgh Castle the next year. Poor stuff this.Spot on! Clubs went through a lot of blood sweat and tears to get the SFA licence and now the big moment is shrouded in secrecyClubs could be posting on their social media and Web sites that the big Scottish Cup draw is happening, if we only knew whenThese are the things that bring the punters in and can help clubs gain more sponsorship etcVery poor show from the SFA 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Not just that but you've also got the EOS with fixtures to slot in for clubs who get a bye on the 28th, and the WOS has up to 7 fixtures to cancel that day as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malty Guy Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 (edited) On 06/08/2021 at 23:00, Man from the East said: It's now getting very close to the time when this years competition formally starts by way of the Preliminary round draw. Many Clubs in this division will be taking part, and I hope that its success for all of them. If its not a success it'll certainly be an experience. I hope that the clubs, players, officials and supporters enjoy every minute of it - all of them have done a lot of hard work, spent time and money and no doubt many different points of view have been debated. However, now the competition is almost here. The draw will soon be made and the ties will be played in 3 weeks. Good fortune and the very best of luck to everyone involved. Anybody have any idea which EOS club has made the most appearances in the Scottish Cup. Or maybe putting a different question, which EOS Club has won the most Scottish Cup games?? Just wondering, thats all. Edited August 9, 2021 by Malty Guy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mantis Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 (edited) On 09/08/2021 at 18:27, Malty Guy said: Anybody have any idea which EOS club has made the most appearances in the Scottish Cup. Or maybe putting a different question, which EOS Club has won the most Scottish Cup games?? Just wondering, thats all. Had a quick look at Whitehill's record. 30 appearances, 43 ties (excluding replays) since their first in 1980. Only 13 wins though, and 13 draws, and only one win against SPFL opposition, 2-1 away to Albion Rovers in 1987. Before 2007, clubs had to qualify for the Scottish by reaching the last 4 of the Qualifying Cup. After 2007 SFA members qualified automatically. The great WW team of the mid 90s had some amazing ties as well as some cruel luck. 1993 - 3-1 up at Stranraer with 10 mins to go, drew 3-3, before losing the replay 4-0. 1995 - drew 0-0 with Montrose and lost the replay 5-2. 1996 - won 2-1 at Fraserburgh after a 2-2 draw and lost 3-0 to Celtic at Easter Road in Round 3. 1996-7 - Won 3-0 away to HL Elgin before losing a thriller at home to QoS 2-3 when the pitch had to be cleared of snow by volunteers including some of the players. 1999 - Drew 1-1 at home to Stenny. Kenny Miller was on loan from Hibs who weren't wanting him cup tied (or whatever). The winners were drawn away to Rangers so apparently Hibs were paid a decent sum (£8k?) to allow him to play. He scored both goals in a 2-0 win with WW missing a penalty (at 1-0 IIRC). Some teams such as Spartans may have more wins. Appearances, maybe Gala. Edited August 10, 2021 by The Mantis Misunderstood 'appearances" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malty Guy Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 31 minutes ago, The Mantis said: Had a quick look at Whitehill's record. 47 appearances (ties, excluding replays) since their first in 1980. Only 13 wins though, and 13 draws, and only one win against SPFL opposition, 2-1 away to Albion Rovers in 1987. The great WW team of the mid 90s had some amazing ties as well as some cruel luck. 1993 - 3-1 up at Stranraer with 10 mins to go, drew 3-3, before losing the replay 4-0. 1995 - drew 0-0 with Montrose and lost the replay 5-2. 1996 - won 2-1 at Fraserburgh after a 2-2 draw and lost 3-0 to Celtic at Easter Road in Round 3. 1996-7 - Won 3-0 away to HL Elgin before losing a thriller at home to QoS 2-3 when the pitch had to be cleared of snow by volunteers including some of the players. 1999 - Drew 1-1 at home to Stenny. Kenny Miller was on loan from Hibs who weren't wanting him cup tied (or whatever). The winners were drawn away to Rangers so apparently Hibs were paid a decent sum (£8k?) to allow him to play. He scored both goals in a 2-0 win with WW missing a penalty (at 1-0 IIRC). Some teams such as Spartans may have more wins. Appearances, maybe Gala. Thanks for that, WW certainly have taken part. Not too bad a record. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Malty Guy said: Anybody have any idea which EOS club has made the most appearances in the Scottish Cup. Or maybe putting a different question, which EOS Club has won the most Scottish Cup games?? Just wondering, thats all. Linlithgow Rose have won 20 Scottish Cup games, which I would guess might be the most of the current EoS clubs. In total they've played 34 matches in 10 appearances, with (obviously) 10 defeats and 4 draws. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanburn Dave Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 9 hours ago, Burnieman said: Clubs have not yet been advised when the draw date is, only that it is this week. The SFA website with dates of the rounds has been updated today to include the words "The preliminary round draw will take place on Thursday, 12 August" 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungSouthcroft Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, Deanburn Dave said: The SFA website with dates of the rounds has been updated today to include the words "The preliminary round draw will take place on Thursday, 12 August" I'm told the SFA intranet has been temperamental today... every time i look its the same old stuff 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungSouthcroft Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 48 minutes ago, GordonS said: Linlithgow Rose have won 20 Scottish Cup games, which I would guess might be the most of the current EoS clubs. In total they've played 34 matches in 10 appearances, with (obviously) 10 defeats and 4 draws. 20 out of 34 not a bad win record at all. Almost 60% win rate. Well done LR 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungSouthcroft Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 10 hours ago, Burnieman said: Clubs have not yet been advised when the draw date is, only that it is this week. I think that sadly this the case. Personally I think it could have been managed a wee bit better 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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