Jump to content

English Football League 2021/22 Season - Playoffs


Recommended Posts

All things considered, Wayne Rooney seems to be doing a great job at Derby. Watching the EFL highlights and their 2 goals from yesterday were both crackers.
Wonder if Everton will make a move for him.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

All things considered, Wayne Rooney seems to be doing a great job at Derby. Watching the EFL highlights and their 2 goals from yesterday were both crackers.

Off the bottom now and just 8 points from safety, every chance of clawing that back! Also have a better goal difference than everyone right up to 10th placed, local rivals Nottingham Forest, who they play at the City Ground next week.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Derby have until the end of January to provide proof of funds to last the season or face further punishments, including league expulsion.

Bolton and Bury were never going to be the last to face it, and neither will Derby.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Derby have until the end of January to provide proof of funds to last the season or face further punishments, including league expulsion.

Bolton and Bury were never going to be the last to face it, and neither will Derby.

The sale of Jason Knight might be the short term answer to that, assuming that more than one Premiership club are interested (other than Leeds United) to ensure a competitive £bid.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

22 hours ago, Clockwork said:


Off the bottom now and just 8 points from safety, every chance of clawing that back! Also have a better goal difference than everyone right up to 10th placed, local rivals Nottingham Forest, who they play at the City Ground next week.

I really fucking hope not.

I live and work around a lot of Derby fans. A hugely over-inflated sense of their club's place in the world.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

19 hours ago, Charles Stiles said:

I keep seeing snippets of Mike Ashley buying Derby. He's probably waiting until the very final seconds of the club's hearings before buying it for £1 when it's either that or farewell Derby.

Much more to it than that.

Any buyer will be looking for the previous owner to take responsibility for potential legal action by Middlesbrough and/or Wycombe relating to previous seasons, and probably for him to include the stadium in any sale of the club.

Those are two big stumbling blocks and someone as savvy as Ashley is unlikely to buy a club with no stadium and facing potential legal costs of tens of millions of pounds.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 18/01/2022 at 11:08, VincentGuerin said:

Much more to it than that.

Any buyer will be looking for the previous owner to take responsibility for potential legal action by Middlesbrough and/or Wycombe relating to previous seasons, and probably for him to include the stadium in any sale of the club.

Those are two big stumbling blocks and someone as savvy as Ashley is unlikely to buy a club with no stadium and facing potential legal costs of tens of millions of pounds.

Of course there will be but Ashley specialises in failed businesses. If you're owed say £50m and the choice is take £5m or see the business fold and you get nothing then you take the money. Pride Park is in an industrial area so presumably no value for selling off for housing and there's a quite new indoor arena next to it. If County go out of existence then what are you going to do with a 34,000 football stadium? Ashley may be many unlikeable things but when it comes to stuff like this he knows exactly what he's doing. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, Charles Stiles said:

Of course there will be but Ashley specialises in failed businesses. If you're owed say £50m and the choice is take £5m or see the business fold and you get nothing then you take the money. Pride Park is in an industrial area so presumably no value for selling off for housing and there's a quite new indoor arena next to it. If County go out of existence then what are you going to do with a 34,000 football stadium? Ashley may be many unlikeable things but when it comes to stuff like this he knows exactly what he's doing. 

If MM thinks he's likely to be hit with a big legal bill from Boro and Wycombe, he might just sit tight as he is. As you say, Ashley is no mug, so he's not likely to buy the club knowing he could be taking on that potential hit of tens of millions of pounds.

It's easy to see how this just grinds on into liquidation. MM has already lost a fortune, and may just decide he doesn't want to be liable for any more. If he does, who buys the club and why?

Not as simple as just waiting till the last minute and hoping he'll buckle.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If MM thinks he's likely to be hit with a big legal bill from Boro and Wycombe, he might just sit tight as he is. As you say, Ashley is no mug, so he's not likely to buy the club knowing he could be taking on that potential hit of tens of millions of pounds.
It's easy to see how this just grinds on into liquidation. MM has already lost a fortune, and may just decide he doesn't want to be liable for any more. If he does, who buys the club and why?
Not as simple as just waiting till the last minute and hoping he'll buckle.

Mel Morris sold the stadium to himself (a private company that he owns) for £80 million back in 2019. On the back of this, he was then pleased to report to the fans, that the club had made a healthy pre-tax profit (for the first time since 2009) of £15 million quid. Dodgy as f*ck.
It’s the supporters I feel sorry for, watching their club going down the pan with very little they can do about it. Can’t see the highly contentious compensation demands of Boro & Wycombe being settled either way through the courts in time, only the sale of their best young players might be enough to keep the wolves from the door. To raise £7m before the end of the month is still a huge ask when other clubs know you haven’t got a pot to piss in. I think they’re toast.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Clockwork said:


Mel Morris sold the stadium to himself (a private company that he owns) for £80 million back in 2019. On the back of this, he was then pleased to report to the fans, that the club had made a healthy pre-tax profit (for the first time since 2009) of £15 million quid. Dodgy as f*ck.
It’s the supporters I feel sorry for, watching their club going down the pan with very little they can do about it. 

The supporters could have placed much more scrutiny on their moneybags owner who was putting together entirely unsustainable squads year after year. They can do little now because they didn't ask the tough questions years ago - from 2009 to 2019 when they were racking up losses - that would have shed light on their situation and possibly prevented this outcome from happening. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Clockwork said:


Mel Morris sold the stadium to himself (a private company that he owns) for £80 million back in 2019. On the back of this, he was then pleased to report to the fans, that the club had made a healthy pre-tax profit (for the first time since 2009) of £15 million quid. Dodgy as f*ck.
It’s the supporters I feel sorry for, watching their club going down the pan with very little they can do about it. Can’t see the highly contentious compensation demands of Boro & Wycombe being settled either way through the courts in time, only the sale of their best young players might be enough to keep the wolves from the door. To raise £7m before the end of the month is still a huge ask when other clubs know you haven’t got a pot to piss in. I think they’re toast.

It's starting to look more likely than not.

As a Hearts supporter, there's an element of pot kettle black here, but I have no sympathy with the majority of Derby fans. I know plenty and it was proper head in the sand stuff. Maybe a big (ish) club in England actually being liquidated might spark the kind of response that sees a bit of a change in culture among fans.

The Rangers issue never really made much impact here. Derby actually being liquidated would have much more of an effect.

As you say, they need a lot of cash quickly. But even then, the potential legal action could finish them anyway. The very point is that it might take years. You're unlikely to find a buyer willing to take on the club without protection from that. Only MM can give that, and he won't do it.

I think Boro and Wycombe should take them to the cleaners, personally.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Bully Wee Villa changed the title to English Football League 2021/22 Season - Playoffs

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...