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Not fearful about relegation this season but if we don't get a midfield inplace then we will not have a very successful season either.

 

Thought the penalty was harsh but it was the rules. The "Penalty" In the first half definetlyshould have been one and Carroll got away with one there. We really need to kick off with the next few fixtures away to St Johnstone, Livingston and Dundee, which will really determine how well our season will be.

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7 minutes ago, Leith Green said:

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I know you spent the last 12 months in the seasides, but you really have to try harder up here champ

It's a perfectly fair point.

His big game record is poor. This is a simple fact.

And last season he was coaching at one of three non-OF clubs that have five-figure crowds. One of them was in the second tier, and the other was performing so badly that its coach lost his job. And, despite Celtic having a generationally bad season, Hibs got nowhere near them.

And in the cups, when it came to the crunch, he failed.

I'm not sure what I'm saying here that's controversial. 'Champ' 🙄

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13 minutes ago, TheJTS98 said:

That's great. As soon as Jack Ross wins a big game, you let everyone know

We don't need to win 'a big game' to get a good league position. Winning lots of little games also works. It's how the famous bottlers of McInness' Aberdeen operated...

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12 minutes ago, TheJTS98 said:

That's great. As soon as Jack Ross wins a big game, you let everyone know.

And, the point stands, I was replying to someone implying that this Hibs team was a serious top-2 contender.

It isn't.

 

No you weren’t. I said Hibs still needed big improvements if they were to challenge for 2nd.

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1 minute ago, Cardle is Magic said:

No you weren’t. I said Hibs still needed big improvements if they were to challenge for 2nd.

Well, I could say the same about Ross County.

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3 minutes ago, TheJTS98 said:

And in the cups, when it came to the crunch, he failed.

While not happy with losing the Scottish Cup final a couple of months back, I guess Jack Ross will be happier losing there than.................

<checks notes>  going out in the second round to

<checks notes again> Brora Fucking Rangers

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9 minutes ago, Leith Green said:

While not happy with losing the Scottish Cup final a couple of months back, I guess Jack Ross will be happier losing there than.................

<checks notes>  going out in the second round to

<checks notes again> Brora Fucking Rangers

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He's lost two out of three to Hearts in a period when Hearts have either been getting relegated or a second-tier side. Despite wearing really nice suits and being really serious in media interviews.

He's lost semi-finals and finals to St Johnstone and second-tier Hearts. The semi-final defeat to Hearts with absolutely everything in Hibs' favour is a pretty damning blot on the cv. Before we even touch on Sunderland, of course.

I hope he has a long career as Hibs coach.

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Guid game, a draw would have been fair but if any team were to win Hibs probably just shaded it on the second half.

Ref was atrocious both ways but we’re always that little bit less streetwise when it comes to it.

KVV is excellent value and will get many yellow cards this year.

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Limited evidence so far but from what I've seen we seem to have more of a plan in attack than last season.

Couldn't really say what the plan was last season, some great passages of play without anything happening, or rather spawny periods where we ended up with a goal for some reason - multiplied by 40 games or so. For whatever reason I never really felt Newell and Irvine combined, and Gogic is fairly hit and miss with his contributions at either end of the pitch.

Magennis in for Irvine seems to be working well thus far, and that little passage of playing involving Doyle-Hayes before the penalty is what I've dreamt of watching at Hibs for a long time. Heard Campbell coming in with a couple of goals for Edinburgh City on Open All Mics last season so good to see him back too. Thought he was a defensive midfielder but seemingly can play on the wings too, good to have that versatility and it seems Ross has a good bit of faith in him.

Up front I thought they all played well, Nisbet in particular for his involvement in the goals. Had thought we'd been playing better with two wingers and Nisbet so was surprised to see Doidge on, but to see him get his goal on the first day was delightful.

All in all I've clearly enjoyed myself, and took great enjoyment in seeing Ross beaming away with the players and the fans at the end of the game. Disappointed to see Doig probably leaving today but Louis was solid today and we're clearly getting a decent deal if Mathie's previous comments about what it will take to make us sell are anything to go by. Exciting to see if this has any influence on what we do with the rest of our window, and rather hope that its the last of our outgoings too for that matter.  

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Throughly enjoyable game of fitba, that. Had everything for my first game back in 18 months apart from the ideal result. 

Hibs are a very good side, and following the recent Airdrie debacle, we matched them for most of that game. We'll be alright this season. 

As i said earlier, Slattery will be an excellent player when fully up to speed. Another midfielder will be excellent alongside him and Donnelly. 

Plenty has been said about van Veen already. Looks to be an excellent addition and looking forward to his many tricks, goals and red cards this season. Disappointed in Woolery today, heightened by his piss poor effort when through on goal at 2-2. 

All in all, a great afternoon. Great Hibs support through and a good home crowd.  The seethe from those around me after it went 3-2 and the Hibs goalie wasting time, Cerny-esq (when Kelly was doing it at every available opportunity when we were ahead), was brilliant! :lol: it's great to be home. 

A great advert for the cinch. Scottish Football is unrivalled. 

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We went out for a late lunch so this was the perfect match for the neutral after roast lamb, a carafe of Chateau le Pub and a large dram.

Hibs worth the win but by Christ they were hard work at times.  My tipping them for second place may be optimistic if they can;t sort out that defence.

M'well were schizoid.  Sometimes playing some tidy football and then having passages of blood and snotters hoofball.  Being shite at the back didn't help them.

Over all?  An enjoyable 90 minutes and a 6 for Hibs and a 5 for M'well.  For reference, I gave us a 7 yesterday.

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4 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said:

We went out for a late lunch so this was the perfect match for the neutral after roast lamb, a carafe of Chateau le Pub and a large dram.

Hibs worth the win but by Christ they were hard work at times.  My tipping them for second place may be optimistic if they can;t sort out that defence.

M'well were schizoid.  Sometimes playing some tidy football and then having passages of blood and snotters hoofball.  Being shite at the back didn't help them.

Over all?  An enjoyable 90 minutes and a 6 for Hibs and a 5 for M'well.  For reference, I gave us a 7 yesterday.

 

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That was a brilliant game to watch. Frustrating as f**k at both Well goals, especially the second one, but we came good in the end. I enjoyed the fact that both teams were attacking, proper end to end stuff and there was always the chance of another goal. 
van Veen was deserved man of the match - he was a constant problem for our defence, I was very impressed with him. From a Hibs point of view, Magennis looked like the player I’ve been hoping he’ll turn out to be, and Nisbet was superb. 

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We looked a bit better than I expected today and competed well for the most part, in a really enjoyable high tempo game.

Woolery, a few decent runs apart disappointed a bit, no more so than his piss poor effort in the 1 v 1.

Amaluzor, when he came on, did a lot of running about, but most of it seemed to be away from the general direction of play . He hit the byeline once and put in a decent ball, but seemed to be trying to hide in plain sight and avoid taking the ball. This years Seedorf I think.

Hibs look a very decent side, their keeper apart. Boy looks a massive downgrade from Marciano or the likes.

For us, Big Kev is going to be da top boi obvs.

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10 minutes ago, 'WellDel said:

 Marciano or the likes.

"The likes"? 🤣.

Some of the flak thrown at Hibs goalies down the years has been unjustified but I'm coming up to pensionable age and the only decent ones we've had have been Rough, Burridge & Leighton, who'd played about 2,000 1st team games between them when they joined... and "The Goalie", who was on another planet, but describing him as "decent" could provoke a reaction😒.

Anyhoooo... 

Rijeka (2 wins from 2) about to kickoff at Dinamo Zagreb, who somehow contrived to lose 2-0 to Slaven Belupo in their opening home game. 

9/20 Dinamo, 13/2 Rijeka, 10/3 draw.

I can't believe I'm sad enough to watch this.

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Firstly - I fucking *loved* being back at a real game - LC groups are shite really but today was proper. We've been lucky to get the nod for 6.5k from NLC but it made it a great atmosphere.

My biggest fear going into this was that playing Hibs was too early a test for us as we try to get up to speed and so it ultimately proved as they just about deserved the win. That said, until Slattery tired, our midfield 3 competed well (which was a bonus I wasn't expecting today) and we looked decent going forward. The goals we lost were all disappointing in different ways but told of a bit of a soft centre, which was always going to be an issue against a really good attacking team.

If we can get some minutes in the legs of Donnelly and Slattery, we have the basis of a good midfield there, hopefully another addition to come in there - and getting Ojala up to speed and into the heart of the defence is a priority.

Van Veen was just fucking excellent - he raised his game way above what we've seen so far and will be total box office for us - my type of player. He was totally burst at the end - it's a pity that Woolery didn't hit the heights today as that little reverse pass by KVV to put him in was <chef's kiss>.

Is it possible to be quite content after losing despite being ahead twice? Yes, yes it is.

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