Jeff Venom Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I know exactly the situation - to try and twist that into Killie ripping off the taxpayer is fucking laughable, on so many levels. ..and again with the the rangers connection - I'm not aware of us having had any half and half scarves printed. Back in yer hovel.Feel free to furnish us with the truth then. I'm only going by what I saw in the press. I'll hold my hands up, no problem.Ps, having a scarf produced, once, which no one asked for nor wanted is a little different to belting out a slightly tweaked Rangers favourite over years and years, but whatever. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superhursty7 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 This half and half scarf monstrosity was produced by folk selling stuff at CIS cup final in 2002 no real Ayr fan would buy or wear one 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, killiekranky said: Ayr knocked back David Murray didn't they ? David Murray, a name synonymous with sporting integrity and diligent payment of taxes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Superhursy7 said: 1 hour ago, killiekranky said: When I started following Killie I never expected success. We were bouncing between the leagues and anytime we did make the Premier league it was generally a miserable season of getting gubbed most weeks and our best players lured away. Then we hit rock bottom, second division. The Fleetings arrived, brought in Tommy Burns and Killie were rebuilt from the bottom up. Bobby Fleeting promised a new all seater stadium, Premier league football , Major Trophies, European football and Internationalists playing for Killie. At the time I thought he was Mental, but everything he promised came to be. Sometimes a once in a lifetime opportunity arises when the perfect person to run your club comes along at the perfect time. Bobby Fleeting was our perfect person and laid the foundations for all the success that followed. Ayr knocked back David Murray didn't they ? Yes we did but it wasn't the same situation that it was when he bought Rangers and pumped millions in that was never the plan for Ayr. It would have been fucking hilarious, but you really did dodge a bullet with that cúnt. Any "millions" he pumped in tended to exist on the books of his other companies rather than in any real arena, and we know how that ended up, don't we? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Jeff Venom said: Feel free to furnish us with the truth then. I'm only going by what I saw in the press. (A)I'll hold my hands up, no problem. Ps, having a scarf produced, once,(B) which no one asked for nor wanted is a little different to belting out a slightly tweaked Rangers favourite over years and years, but whatever. A. A comprehension issue, then. Not sure I can make it simple enough for you. Maybe google again and get a grown-up to help? B. Amazing how these idiots go creating products that nobody wants, isn't it? I mean, nobody bought them, I take it? As for the song, in common with many, many Killie fans, I'd ditch it tomorrow. Get the back to the good old days of Wings of a Sparrow and Build a Bonfire. Simple, tuneful and adaptable. A full rendition of Paper Roses remains the finest terrace song in Scotland, mind. * *On the off-chance there's any Hibs fans around - that 2016 rendition of SoL was incredible, but as a one-off for that occasion. Tears were shed. On a normal day, it's a wee bit of a dirge, don'tcha think?** **Not when peformed by Jane Horrocks, mind. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 41 minutes ago, Superhursy7 said: This half and half scarf monstrosity was produced by folk selling stuff at CIS cup final in 2002 no real Ayr fan would buy or wear one Oh, so they didn't sell any then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superhursty7 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Oh, so they didn't sell any then?Ayr united didn't was produced and sold by a street vender nothing to do with club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Venom Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 A. A comprehension issue, then. Not sure I can make it simple enough for you. Maybe google again and get a grown-up to help?Well, that's sure me told. In the time it took you to write out that whole post, you could have just answered. You instead chose the low road, which is a shame as I thought you were better than that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrforce1 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Ayr united didn't was produced and sold by a street vender nothing to do with club.Exactly this.What's hard to understand?Rosie having a mare here [emoji1787] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: I know exactly the situation - to try and twist that into Killie ripping off the taxpayer is fucking laughable, on so many levels. ..and again with the the rangers connection - I'm not aware of us having had any half and half scarves printed. Back in yer hovel. You did however sell them nearly your entire stadium and let them play their party songs on the PA to let them celebrate a title win. And let’s not forget being the only club to not vote against reinstating Rangers straight into the top flight. The fucking brass neck. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrforce1 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 You did however sell them nearly your entire stadium and let them play their party songs on the PA to let them celebrate a title win. And let’s not forget being the only club to not vote against reinstating Rangers straight into the top flight. The fucking brass neck.Fairly sure they moved fans from their own seats to sell them to both sides of the bigot brothers....With free PA access for party tunes thrown in....Obviously Rosie doesn't see irony before he posts nonsense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placidcasual Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 WRK is a Celtic fan in all but name. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) Kilmarnock FC did not repay their debt to a bank which was majority owned by the taxpayer. They reached a settlement where a large chunk of the debt was written off. If you can't accept that then you're living in an alternative reality. It's entirely factual. Whether it represented good value for tax payers is a different issue. X% of something is better than 100% of nothing. Edited July 30, 2021 by Trogdor 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 29 minutes ago, Jeff Venom said: Well, that's sure me told. In the time it took you to write out that whole post, you could have just answered. You instead chose the low road, which is a shame as I thought you were better than that. Oh, ffs. Short sentences, wee words. BoS/Lloyds was on the way under. Bailed out by Government. That's yer taxpayer's money. About a third public owned. Killie owed a debt which the bank deemed unlikely to be repaid, so wrote it off. This was the bank's money. ..and it was less than 10m. Not 13m. If you want to continue to pretend the taxpayer still has any connection to this money*, it would be about 3m. Also, I am in no way better than that. Whatever that is. *Which we obviously didn't. Privatising profit, socialising debt. That's the neo-liberal way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 28 minutes ago, eez-eh said: You did however sell them nearly your entire stadium and let them play their party songs on the PA to let them celebrate a title win. And let’s not forget being the only club to not vote against reinstating Rangers straight into the top flight. The fucking brass neck. Aye, because Johston was Killie through and through. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 10 minutes ago, Trogdor said: Kilmarnock FC did not repay their debt to a bank which was majority owned by the taxpayer. They reached a settlement where a large chunk of the debt was written off. If you can't accept that then you're living in an alternative reality. It's entirely factual. Whether it represented good value for tax payers is a different issue. X% of something is better than 100% of nothing. Looks like the maths department at Mainholm is just as fucked as the English department. The money ceased to belong to us (the taxpayer) when it was given to Lloyds. If you can't accept that then you're living in an alternative reality. It's entirely factual. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: Aye, because Johston was Killie through and through. Trying to claim that the chairman isn’t representative of the club while simultaneously having a pop at another club over the actions of a bloke selling some scarves. It’s a bold strategy I’ll give you that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death in Vegas Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 We won the battle of the Sandgate, at least that’s something. Better than nothing a suppose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, eez-eh said: Trying to claim that the chairman isn’t representative of the club while simultaneously having a pop at another club over the actions of a bloke selling some scarves. It’s a bold strategy I’ll give you that. You're really not getting the scarf thing, are you? There was obviously a market for such an abomination - or at least a belief there was a demand. Thje perception that you've got more than a few busfare-less currants in your support is not an unfounded one. I'm not having a go at the club, simply pointing out that some of your fans have an attraction to a certain "big team". We're fortunate in that our "big team" is Killie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Venom Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Oh, ffs. Short sentences, wee words. BoS/Lloyds was on the way under. Bailed out by Government. That's yer taxpayer's money. About a third public owned. Killie owed a debt which the bank deemed unlikely to be repaid, so wrote it off. This was the bank's money. ..and it was less than 10m. Not 13m. If you want to continue to pretend the taxpayer still has any connection to this money*, it would be about 3m. Also, I am in no way better than that. Whatever that is. *Which we obviously didn't. Privatising profit, socialising debt. That's the neo-liberal way. Thanks for clearing that up, heck of a state to whip yourself into just to get there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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