accies1874 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 I don't think it should be thoughI don't think it should either. Can't remember which game it happened in previously, but it was in that game that I found out having one hand on the ball holding it in place on the ground(insert relevant gifs here), counts as having it under controlMotherwell v Hearts in the cup a few years ago? That's how I found out about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ro Sham Bo said: I'm really not convinced Schmeichel had that ball under control there. It looked like it could easily have squirmed from his grasp. Same. The only reason we don't know is because the Villa player put it in the net. Which to me means it was not an obvious error by the referee and VAR should not have looked at it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 The current law is an assDefinitely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: Same. The only reason we don't know is because the Villa player put it in the net. Which to me means it was not an obvious error by the referee and VAR should not have looked at it. VAR checks all goals and they can be ruled out (or in) for any error, not just obvious ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 McGinn's looked really good the couple of times I've seen him under Gerrard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Stiles Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Ridiculous. Ball was loose, both went for it, Schmeichel gets there a micro second before Ramsey in the same move. Back to joke decisions in the keepers favour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Stiles Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 40 minutes ago, pozbaird said: Watching Villa v Leicester. Whoever thought that dark grey and pink Leicester away kit was a good idea Could have left it there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Harsh decision but that's the rules apparently. Worth it for Stevie G's look of anguish though... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 1 minute ago, The Master said: VAR checks all goals and they can be ruled out (or in) for any error, not just obvious ones. No. VAR is only supposed to check for clear errors. From the Premier League website. "VAR is used only for "clear and obvious errors" or "serious missed incidents" in four match-changing situations: goals; penalty decisions; direct red-card incidents; and mistaken identity." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Just now, Jim McLean's Ghost said: No. VAR is only supposed to check for clear errors. From the Premier League website. "VAR is used only for "clear and obvious errors" or "serious missed incidents" in four match-changing situations: goals; penalty decisions; direct red-card incidents; and mistaken identity." You seem to be ignoring the word “or”. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 1 minute ago, The Master said: You seem to be ignoring the word “or”. I don't think it was Serious missed incident either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Just now, Jim McLean's Ghost said: I don't think it was Serious missed incident either. If a foul is missed in the build up to a goal, by definition it’s a serious missed incident because it had a direct impact on the game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Stiles Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 NBC are saying only part of the law is being used and it goes on to basically say, and I'm paraphrasing, the stuff being quoted doesn't count after the keeper has made a save and the ball's gone loose. VAR also only showed the play after Schmeichel's initial save so ref didn't see the whole incident. They're yanks so it may be be bollocks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Master said: If a foul is missed in the build up to a goal, by definition it’s a serious missed incident because it had a direct impact on the game. I don't think you will be able to back up that assertion. Show me where "serious missed incident" is defined by the Premier League. In fact for Subjective decisions, which that was the Premier LEague say this "For subjective decisions, either the referee informs the VAR that a decision should be reviewed or the VAR identifies a “clear and obvious error” in one of the four match-changing situations and communicates this to the referee." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 If a foul is missed in the build up to a goal, by definition it’s a serious missed incident because it had a direct impact on the game.What's the point in the "clear and obvious error" part then? Since everything that happens ever would come under your definition of a 'serious missed incident". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: I don't think you will be able to back up that assertion. It’s backed up by knowing that a goal has a direct impact on the game, but sure. 1 minute ago, craigkillie said: What's the point in the "clear and obvious error" part then? Since everything that happens ever would come under your definition of a 'serious missed incident". No, because not everything has the same impact on a game as a goal does. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 It's funny seeing Villa and Scotland doing the same corner routines. Austin MacPhee's Tartan and Villa Army IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Stiles Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Take that Kasper. He's obviously still suffering from the broken hand he got at the disallowed goal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Tyler with an all-timer there, "Old Firm/unfirm". Not quite "De Bruyne. De Gea. De-rby", though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Charles Stiles said: NBC are saying only part of the law is being used and it goes on to basically say, and I'm paraphrasing, the stuff being quoted doesn't count after the keeper has made a save and the ball's gone loose. VAR also only showed the play after Schmeichel's initial save so ref didn't see the whole incident. They're yanks so it may be be bollocks. Sounds like bollocks. Hand on ball = keepers ball, by definition. I have absolutely no idea what's controversial about this decision. It's so clear cut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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