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Saturday 18th September 2021
Bo'ness Athletic (twelve) 12-1 Thornton Hibs
Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts 3-5 Crossgates Primrose
Luncarty 2-0 Kennoway Star Hearts
Ormiston 0-3 Leith Athletic


Luncarty prevail, while Bo'ness Athletic humiliate Thornton, and Crossgates outgun Inverkeithing.


Exceedingly attractive SF line-up:

Semi-Finals (Saturday 23rd October)
Crossgates Primrose v Bo'ness Athletic
Luncarty v Leith Athletic

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I read that Thornton Hibs had subs listed but they weren't fit enough to play. Two Thornton players were injured when they were 5-1 down and they played out the game with 9 men. Mercilessly brutal of Bo'ness Athletic to keep the pedal to the metal and score 12 in a cup game.

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1 hour ago, Deanburn Dave said:

I read that Thornton Hibs had subs listed but they weren't fit enough to play. Two Thornton players were injured when they were 5-1 down and they played out the game with 9 men. Mercilessly brutal of Bo'ness Athletic to keep the pedal to the metal and score 12 in a cup game.

The Athletic boys have scored 71 goals in the opening 13 matches.

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Boost for prospective winners... favourites Kilwinning surprisingly exited their equivalent tournament.


Strathclyde Cup
Third Round (to be drawn):

West Premier (1)                    Rutherglen Glencairn
West First Division (6)         Bellshill Athletic, Drumchapel United, Neilston, Royal Albert, St Cadocs, Vale of Clyde
West Fourth Division (1)    Harmony Row

Rutherglen are currently 12th in West Premier and lost 1-0 at Thornton in last season's South Challenge Cup.

Bellshill are 9th in West First A and recently crashed 5-2 at home to Dundonald in this season's cup. St Cadocs are 3rd in B and did well to win on penalties at Kilwinning... they also won 5-1 at Glenrothes last season; while Royal Albert are rock bottom. Drumchapel lead C... they lost 3-2 at Heriot-Watt Uni last campaign... while Neilston are 3rd and Vale of Clyde are joint bottom.

Harmony Row are 4th in Fourth Division.

At this stage Rutherglen, St Cadocs and Drumchapel are probably favourite to lift cup.



Southern Alba Cup
Final (on Friday 10th December at Queen of the South)
Abbey Vale v Nithsdale Wanderers

Abbey Vale are currently 5th in South and lost 3-1 at Haddington last season. Nithsdale are 6th.


So certainly nothing to fear for whoever ultimately wins the Alex Jack in their pursuit of a Scottish Cup place.

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Absolutely incredible game at Humbug today.  Crossgates 2 down,  going 3-2 up, quickly losing an equalizer and then going on to win on penalties,  and that barely tells 10% of the drama involved throughout the game. So many missed chances from both sides including a saved bo'ness penalty late on in the 90.

Is there a draw to decide the home team for the final, or is that already been decided?  

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15 minutes ago, parsforlife said:

Absolutely incredible game at Humbug today.  Crossgates 2 down,  going 3-2 up, quickly losing an equalizer and then going on to win on penalties,  and that barely tells 10% of the drama involved throughout the game. So many missed chances from both sides including a saved bo'ness penalty late on in the 90.

Is there a draw to decide the home team for the final, or is that already been decided?  

Last time the Alex Jack Cup was contested, the final between Musselburgh and Oakley was played at a neutral venue; New Victoria Park, Newtongrange. From what you say, maybe that has changed this time around? 

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4 minutes ago, Casey Jones said:

Last time the Alex Jack Cup was contested, the final between Musselburgh and Oakley was played at a neutral venue; New Victoria Park, Newtongrange. From what you say, maybe that has changed this time around? 

I just made a general assumption based on finals at this level being often at one of the sides ground.

If it's neutral venue there are many many options with the two sides involved.

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21 minutes ago, parsforlife said:

Absolutely incredible game at Humbug today.  Crossgates 2 down,  going 3-2 up, quickly losing an equalizer and then going on to win on penalties,  and that barely tells 10% of the drama involved throughout the game. So many missed chances from both sides including a saved bo'ness penalty late on in the 90.

Is there a draw to decide the home team for the final, or is that already been decided?  

Pretty sure it'll take place at a neutral venue

 

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1 minute ago, parsforlife said:

I just made a general assumption based on finals at this level being often at one of the sides ground.

If it's neutral venue there are many many options with the two sides involved.

Perhaps it is neutral as who ever wins has a great chance to get into the Scottish Cup preliminarily rounds next season; again, if the same rules apply, where the winners of the cup have a play-off with South of Scotland cup winners to gain that privilege. Not sure how West of Scotland set up affects this? 

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12 minutes ago, Casey Jones said:

Perhaps it is neutral as who ever wins has a great chance to get into the Scottish Cup preliminarily rounds next season; again, if the same rules apply, where the winners of the cup have a play-off with South of Scotland cup winners to gain that privilege. Not sure how West of Scotland set up affects this? 

Does seem it will be neutral venue.

Going by @HibeeJibee posts I guess there's a round robin between alex jack,  strathclyde and southern alba winners. Hopefully he can confirm.

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2 hours ago, parsforlife said:

I just made a general assumption based on finals at this level being often at one of the sides ground.

If it's neutral venue there are many many options with the two sides involved.

With the possible exception of some finals in the South - and even they have moved on from that IIRC? - all proper Finals at this level are played on neutral grounds. You'd probably have to go back decades to find a South Challenge, EOS Qualifying, Alex Jack, EOS League or King cup final at somebodies ground but even then it'd likely be an exception and an oddity. (In any case Peffermill 3G would be inadequate for hosting a game of this kind - and Humbug Park doesn't have any floodlights which would hamper a late November showpiece).


Saturday 23rd October 2021
SFs:
Crossgates Primrose 3-3 Bo'ness Athletic (aet, FT 3-3, 5-4p)
Luncarty 1-2 Leith Athletic


Leith scored on 85mins to win their tie.

It looks set to be an epic final on Sunday 28th November as both clubs eye a shot at qualifying for next season's Scottish Cup... Crossgates are sitting 7th in Premier plus got here by beating Kirkcaldy & Dysart, Kinnoull, Inverkeithing and Bo'ness Athletic. Leith are sitting 2nd in First Division A Conference plus beat - all 4 away - Lochore, Glenrothes, Ormiston and Luncarty.

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On 26/09/2021 at 21:01, HibeeJibee said:

Strathclyde Cup
Third Round (to be drawn):

West Premier (1)                    Rutherglen Glencairn
West First Division (6)         Bellshill Athletic, Drumchapel United, Neilston, Royal Albert, St Cadocs, Vale of Clyde
West Fourth Division (1)    Harmony Row

Rutherglen are currently 12th in West Premier and lost 1-0 at Thornton in last season's South Challenge Cup.

Bellshill are 9th in West First A and recently crashed 5-2 at home to Dundonald in this season's cup. St Cadocs are 3rd in B and did well to win on penalties at Kilwinning... they also won 5-1 at Glenrothes last season; while Royal Albert are rock bottom. Drumchapel lead C... they lost 3-2 at Heriot-Watt Uni last campaign... while Neilston are 3rd and Vale of Clyde are joint bottom.

Harmony Row are 4th in Fourth Division.

At this stage Rutherglen, St Cadocs and Drumchapel are probably favourite to lift cup.

Drawn yesterday:

Bellshill Athletic v Drumchapel United
Neilston v Rutherglen Glencairn
St Cadocs v Harmony Row
Royal Albert v Vale of Clyde


Drumchapel, Rutherglen, St Cadocs will be favourites to reach SFs - though Neilston will be hopeful - while last tie looks fairly even.

With no round played this month it appears the West competition won't conclude until some way into the new year.

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Drawn yesterday:

Bellshill Athletic v Drumchapel United
Neilston v Rutherglen Glencairn
St Cadocs v Harmony Row
Royal Albert v Vale of Clyde


Drumchapel, Rutherglen, St Cadocs will be favourites to reach SFs - though Neilston will be hopeful - while last tie looks fairly even.

With no round played this month it appears the West competition won't conclude until some way into the new year.
West ties getting played on Saturday 27th November.
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On 23/10/2021 at 23:09, HibeeJibee said:

With the possible exception of some finals in the South - and even they have moved on from that IIRC? - all proper Finals at this level are played on neutral grounds. You'd probably have to go back decades to find a South Challenge, EOS Qualifying, Alex Jack, EOS League or King cup final at somebodies ground but even then it'd likely be an exception and an oddity. 

About 20 years ago Edinburgh City beat Whitehill in a Final at Fergie Park - I think it might have been the King Cup- because both clubs couldn't be arsed going to the original venue, Victoria Park.

Whitehill were going for plenty of other trophies and weren't too bothered although we still had to beat them....

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On 23/10/2021 at 23:09, HibeeJibee said:

It looks set to be an epic final on Sunday 28th November as both clubs eye a shot at qualifying for next season's Scottish Cup... Crossgates are sitting 7th in Premier plus got here by beating Kirkcaldy & Dysart, Kinnoull, Inverkeithing and Bo'ness Athletic. Leith are sitting 2nd in First Division A Conference plus beat - all 4 away - Lochore, Glenrothes, Ormiston and Luncarty.

Sunday 28th November 2021
FINAL:

Crossgates Primrose v Leith Athletic (2pm)
at Kelty Hearts

Venue confirmed: Kelty.

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22 hours ago, HibeeJibee said:

Sunday 28th November 2021
FINAL:

Crossgates Primrose v Leith Athletic (2pm)
at Kelty Hearts

Venue confirmed: Kelty.

Some novelty facts that have occurred to me about this fine choice of venue:

... this is the first time the Alex Jack Cup Final has ever been played in Fife (indeed first outside Lothians + Borders)

... this is the first time any EOS final has been held in Fife since Saturday 6th December 1902 when EOS Qualifying Cup between Cowdenbeath and Hearts of Beath was played at Lochgelly

... this is the furthest north an EOS final has ever been played

... this is the first-ever senior final ever held at Kelty

... this is Crossgates first-ever senior final

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On 13/11/2021 at 20:50, HibeeJibee said:

Some novelty facts that have occurred to me about this fine choice of venue:

... this is the first time the Alex Jack Cup Final has ever been played in Fife (indeed first outside Lothians + Borders)

... this is the first time any EOS final has been held in Fife since Saturday 6th December 1902 when EOS Qualifying Cup between Cowdenbeath and Hearts of Beath was played at Lochgelly

... this is the furthest north an EOS final has ever been played

... this is the first-ever senior final ever held at Kelty

... this is Crossgates first-ever senior final

Should get a decent crowd playing it in Fife.

Always get lots of people from the other Fife clubs turning out for such games.

Looking forward to it.

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