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5 minutes ago, Pumphyman said:

Any idea when the draw is i was under impression it was tonight must have been wrong.

It'll be next week.

SFA AGM where Dalkeith+Dunbar+Musselburgh+Sauchie memberships become "official" is Tuesday IIRC.


Btw you didn't deploy a natty, somewhat cheesy, thread title 👎😢 😭.

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6 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said:

It'll be next week.

SFA AGM where Dalkeith+Dunbar+Musselburgh+Sauchie memberships become "official" is Tuesday IIRC.


Btw you didn't deploy a natty, somewhat cheesy, thread title 👎😢 😭.

How was i supposed to lol

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28 minutes ago, Pumphyman said:

How was i supposed to lol

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Anyway... this is of course the smallest cup in the East panoply - but it packs an impressively big punch.

As well as giving a chance for some less favoured clubs to reach cup finals and win trophies, the victor can qualify for next season's Scottish Cup by adding the Cup-Winners' Shield. East teams have dominated that until now - battering their South opponent each time - with LTHV, Tynecastle, Camelon and Musselburgh taking full advantage. Now the extra challenge and attraction of a West conteder is added to the mix.


It feels like an especially open Alex Jack Cup this season... So many clubs have become licensed that Crossgates and Inverkeithing are the only Premier outfits left; whilst a posse of newcomers has ridden into town in the shape of Bo'ness Athletic, Edinburgh College, Pumpherston and Whitburn . By my reckoning there are 27 entrants:

Crossgates, Inverkeithing
Arniston, Craigroyston, Edinburgh Utd, Kennoway, Kirkcaldy & Dysart, Leith, Ormiston, Rosyth, St Andrews, Thornton, Tweedmouth
Edinburgh South, Glenrothes, Heriot-Watt Uni, Kinnoull, Lochgelly, Lochore, Luncarty, Newburgh, Oakley, Peebles
Bo'ness Athletic, Edinburgh College, Pumpherston, Whitburn



Equivalent cup down South is the Southern Alternate aka Alba Cup: only 7 entrants this season, of whom Nithsdale and Abbey Vale the likely cream.

Abbey Vale, Creetown, Lochar, Lochmaben, Mid Annandale, Nithsdale, Upper Annandale

Equivalent cup out West is the Strathclyde Demolition Cup: it has 18 entrants but most are 'lower-end' with only Bonnyton, Kilwinning and Rutherglen hailing from Premier.

Bellshill, Bonnyton, BSC, Campbeltown, Drumchapel, Finnart, Forth, Glenvale, Harmony Row, Kilsyth Athletic, Kilwinning, Neilston, Port Glasgow, Royal Albert, Rutherglen, St Cadocs, St Peters, Vale of Clyde

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Things are no doubt going to change over the years. Anyone think it would be a good idea for a NCL cup winner to be added to the mix for the East, South & West Cup Winners' Shield for future editions.

Since the Midlands and North Region are continuing under the Junior banner, it leaves the non-licenced NCL teams without a cup competition to qualify for the Scottish Cup.

 

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Seriously bizarre seeing Whitburn in this when most of their immediate neighbours in Conference X are doing the SJC, but not getting into a fankle over extra cup fixture dates probably makes sense if they see promotion as the most important thing to aim for this season. 

As long as they aren't drawn against clubs in the big Scottish Cup, I guess the non-AJC Conference X clubs will potentially be able to use AJC dates to play their SJC first and second round games other than Armadale and Bathgate who have a King Cup game on 7th August?

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8 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

Seriously bizarre seeing Whitburn in this when most of their immediate neighbours in Conference X are doing the SJC, but not getting into a fankle over extra cup fixture dates probably makes sense if they see promotion as the most important thing to aim for this season. 

As long as they aren't drawn against clubs in the big Scottish Cup, I guess the non-AJC Conference X clubs will potentially be able to use AJC dates to play their SJC first and second round games other than Armadale and Bathgate who have a King Cup game on 7th August?

Maybe they looked at their options and decided this gives them a better chance of a Scottish Cup place rather than having to win the Junior Cup?

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First Round
St Andrews United v Bo'ness Athletic
Arniston Rangers v Edinburgh United
Lochgelly Albert v Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts
Craigroyston v Luncarty
Rosyth v Glenrothes
Oakley United v Pumpherston
Leith Athletic v Lochore Welfare
Heriot-Watt University v Thornton Hibs
Edinburgh South v Ormiston
Kinnoull v Newburgh
Crossgates Primrose v Kirkcaldy & Dysart
 
Second Round
Kinnoull/Newburgh v Crossgates Primrose/Kirkcaldy & Dysart
St Andrews United/Bo'ness Athletic v Oakley United/Pumpherston
Lochgelly Albert/Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts v Peebles Rovers
Tweedmouth Rangers v Heriot-Watt University/Thornton Hibs
Kennoway Star Hearts v Edinburgh College
Rosyth/Glenrothes v Leith Athletic/Lochore Welfare
Whitburn v Edinburgh South/Ormiston
Arniston Rangers/Edinburgh United v Craigroyston/Luncarty



Interesting draw, with even-looking contests... notably St Andrews/Bo'ness/Oakley/Pumpherston... and some derbies.

Crossgates, Inverkeithing and Whitburn may fancy their chances.

Edinburgh College only 15 games from playing in Europe.

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On 22/07/2021 at 20:10, HibeeJibee said:
First Round
St Andrews United v Bo'ness Athletic
Arniston Rangers v Edinburgh United
Lochgelly Albert v Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts
Craigroyston v Luncarty
Rosyth v Glenrothes
Oakley United v Pumpherston
Leith Athletic v Lochore Welfare
Heriot-Watt University v Thornton Hibs
Edinburgh South v Ormiston
Kinnoull v Newburgh
Crossgates Primrose v Kirkcaldy & Dysart
 
Second Round
Kennoway Star Hearts v Edinburgh College

Assume these are being played on 7th August? The EOS website doesn't have the fixture past Saturday (guessing there will be changes to the PDF with St Andrews not playing in the Scottish Cup and the SJFA members being confirmed).

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11 hours ago, Ginaro said:

Assume these are being played on 7th August? The EOS website doesn't have the fixture past Saturday (guessing there will be changes to the PDF with St Andrews not playing in the Scottish Cup and the SJFA members being confirmed).

They are being played on the 7th. We were due to play Dalkeith in the league if we got a bye in the first round.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Saturday 7th August 2021
Arniston Rangers v Edinburgh United
Craigroyston v Luncarty
Crossgates Primrose v Kirkcaldy & Dysart
Edinburgh South v Ormiston
Heriot-Watt University v Thornton Hibs
Kinnoull v Newburgh
Lochgelly Albert v Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts
Lochore Welfare v Leith Athletic
Oakley United v Pumpherston
Rosyth v Glenrothes
St Andrews United v Bo'ness Athletic


Road to the 2025 Champions League Final in Munich starts tomorrow with Alex Jack Cup R1. Tie of the round is perhaps Crossgates v Kirkcaldy & Dysart, although Oakley v Pumpherston and Rosyth v Glenrothes also look particularly interesting.

Strathclyde Demolition Cup R1 was on Wednesday with scorelines St Cadocs 4-4 Kilsyth Rangers (8-7p) and Rutherglen Glencairn 3-0 Forth Wanderers.

With only 7 entrants the Southern Alba Cup presumably won't start until the end of next month at the earliest.

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Saturday 7th August 2021
Arniston Rangers 1-3 Edinburgh United
Craigroyston 3-4 Luncarty
Crossgates Primrose 3-2 Kirkcaldy & Dysart
Edinburgh South 3-0 Ormiston
Heriot-Watt University 1-2 Thornton Hibs
Kinnoull (eight) 8-1 Newburgh
Lochgelly Albert 0-6 Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts
Lochore Welfare 3-6 Leith Athletic
Oakley United 3-2 Pumpherston
Rosyth 2-3 Glenrothes
St Andrews United 0-9 (nine) Bo'ness Athletic


No huge shocks although Craigroyston and Kirkcaldy seem to have pushed Luncarty and Crossgates respectively all the way. Newburgh, Lochgelly and St Andrews were left reaching for the smelling salts while there was a goal-fest at Lochore.


Provided nobody has committed any misdemeanours this sets-up Last 16 due Saturday 28th August:

Kinnoull v Crossgates Primrose
Bo'ness Athletic v Oakley United
Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts v Peebles Rovers
Tweedmouth Rangers v Thornton Hibs
Kennoway Star Hearts v Edinburgh College
Glenrothes v Leith Athletic
Whitburn v Edinburgh South
Edinburgh United v Luncarty
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On 06/08/2021 at 18:06, HibeeJibee said:

With only 7 entrants the Southern Alba Cup presumably won't start until the end of next month at the earliest.

Indeed... drawn yesterday... R1 = Saturday 28th August (alongside Scottish Cup Preliminary/Alex Jack Cup R2):

Mid Annandale v Abbey Vale
Upper Annandale v Nithsdale Wanderers
Creetown v Lochmaben
Lochar Thistle = bye

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On 12/08/2021 at 12:56, HibeeJibee said:

Indeed... drawn yesterday... R1 = Saturday 28th August (alongside Scottish Cup Preliminary/Alex Jack Cup R2):

Mid Annandale v Abbey Vale
Upper Annandale v Nithsdale Wanderers
Creetown v Lochmaben
Lochar Thistle = bye

Any idea on fixtures for us that got byes in the Scottish cup on 28th august 

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  • 2 weeks later...

Saturday 28th August 2021
Bo'ness Athletic v Oakley United
Edinburgh United v Luncarty
Glenrothes v Leith Athletic
Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts v Peebles Rovers (2pm)
Kennoway Star Hearts v Edinburgh College
Kinnoull v Crossgates Primrose
Whitburn v Ormiston


Sunday 29th August 2021
Tweedmouth Rangers v Thornton Hibs

Edinburgh South have been ejected for playing a suspended player in their R1 win, with Ormiston reinstated to face Whitburn in R2. There is rare Sunday afternoon action in Northumberland.

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