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I'd just like to add about the train thing, from what I could see on Twitter, nobody seemed upset at the train gif, it seemed as though there was some sort of inferred racism. Also when you consider what was mentioned in that petition I think that is the "offended" angle people have been taking.

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7 hours ago, Genuine Hibs Fan said:

That guy is my new favourite England fan. Being filmed snorting coke to rapturous cheers, sticking a flare up your arse, getting in the stadium without a ticket and then trying to make out what was happening through 3 grams and 20 cans, without feeling a jot of shame. Some boy 

You've got to say fair play to someone that can go on that size of a publicly documented bender and not even have an inkling of the fear afterwards. 

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50 minutes ago, Gordon EF said:

I think the point still stands. How precisely any potential reference matches any potential and unknown real-life event isn't really the point.

A couple of actual real life events have been cited though.

That the image evoked those for some of us, made us uneasy with them.  That's all anyone is saying. 

 

If the pictures showed Saka holding a gun to his head, that might have caused you discomfort - I don't know.  We all draw lines and, unsurprisingly, we don't all draw them in identical places.

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A couple of actual real life events have been cited though.
That the image evoked those for some of us, made us uneasy with them.  That's all anyone is saying. 
 
If the pictures showed Saka holding a gun to his head, that might have caused you discomfort - I don't know.  We all draw lines and, unsurprisingly, we don't all draw them in identical places.
A gun to the head is a violent act though. Saka being stopped from running in front of an oncoming train isn't the same thing. It was to show Chiellini as a hero, not the thug the some English supporters are portraying him as. If the gif was Saka lying with his head on the track I'd possibly find it a bit unsettling as that's a completely different take. But as it is it doesn't suggest suicide in that gif.
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2 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said:

A gun to the head is a violent act though. Saka being stopped from running in front of an oncoming train isn't the same thing. It was to show Chiellini as a hero, not the thug the some English supporters are portraying him as. If the gif was Saka lying with his head on the track I'd possibly find it a bit unsettling as that's a completely different take. But as it is it doesn't suggest suicide in that gif.

As I said, we all have lines.

It's no surprise that they plot slightly different paths.

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1 hour ago, well fan for life said:

You've got to say fair play to someone that can go on that size of a publicly documented bender and not even have an inkling of the fear afterwards. 

A fine example of the kind of sound chap that Boris is relying on to demonstrate good sense and judgement to help reduce the spread of covid. 

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Personally I find the whole thing a bit patronising towards Saka. Anyone seeking a race angle in this has him as skin colour first, footballer second.

Chiellini has been iconic this tournament, and for years in general as being the rough and tumble defender who, in the stereotypical Italian mould, will do stuff like that when needed.

Everything about that foul was everything people live about Chiellini, a man who has been front and centre of the tournament from the opening game.
I see it exactly the same as the Marshall memes after he let in that goal.

I would question anyone's motives if they were to bring race into it, the image is pretty iconic, for me it shows Chiellini's will to win at any cost, he didn't give it a 2nd thought when he pulled Saka back.

Got f**k all to do with Saka's skin colour imo.

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1 hour ago, sergie's no1 fan said:

I see it exactly the same as the Marshall memes after he let in that goal.

I would question anyone's motives if they were to bring race into it, the image is pretty iconic, for me it shows Chiellini's willingness to cheat to win at any cost, he didn't give it a 2nd thought when he pulled Saka back.

Got f**k all to do with Saka's skin colour imo.
 

FTFY

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Catching up on this thread, and knew as soon as I seen the train gif post that Monkey Tennis would be all over it, and the rest of the thread would just be him preaching.

Skipped to the last page and seems like I got that right.

Dearie me.

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13 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

Catching up on this thread, and knew as soon as I seen the train gif post that Monkey Tennis would be all over it, and the rest of the thread would just be him preaching.

No you didn't.  You've simply made that up retrospectively.

It's 'saw' not 'seen' by the way.

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7 hours ago, Doctor Manhattan said:

Why not just enjoy this entirely race-free incident instead? (Unless, of course, "floppy haired diva" is a race?)

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I found it amusing that there was absolutely no reaction from the other England players. Even the referee seemed a bit 'Oh I suppose I'll have to book that Scottish guy'. 

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7 hours ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said:

Complete disrespect towards one of the best players on the planet.

He's a solid right back but that's overstating it IMO.

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35 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said:

I found it amusing that there was absolutely no reaction from the other England players. Even the referee seemed a bit 'Oh I suppose I'll have to book that Scottish guy'. 

There is/has been nothing to convince me that Grealish is liked or respected in that camp. Southgate certainly doesn't hold him in the same regard as he is held by the fans/media/himself. 

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2 hours ago, HalfCutNinja said:

None of us are gonna live that long

Do you really think they're going to keep winning all the tournaments for years and years, in fact generations, to come then?

Even Lee Dixon doesn't think that.

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33 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

There is/has been nothing to convince me that Grealish is liked or respected in that camp. Southgate certainly doesn't hold him in the same regard as he is held by the fans/media/himself. 

There are many good reasons for that. This is but one of them...

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