SoloXI Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, git-intae-thum said: Is that the Scotland team that outplayed you less than 2 weeks ago. England just finally got found out the night. They ain't that good Wannae compare finishing positions? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Sanchez Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Just reading Danny Baker's Twitter. He's not far wrong I'd suggest. Including about the crowd tonight. This Engand run has had a whif of Emperor's New Clothes about it, for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, GordonS said: In Italy it's not even called football. It's called calcio, because it's a codified version of the 16th century Florentine sport. England didn't invent football, they were just the first to get a lot of those playing it to agree to a common set of rules. Indeed nearly every Western European nation can have a claim...even Scotland "The earliest reference to "fute-ball" in Scotland was in 1424 when King James I outlawed the playing of it in the Football Act 1424. This was presumably because of the disruption football was having on military training as well its often violent nature. Subsequent kings issued very similar decrees," 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Oh f**k me, still laughing at that Rashford penalty 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackdaybob Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Wow!!! Forza Italia. I'm out of greenies. Consider yourself all greenied. Even our bitter english friends, particularly stormzy. He's gone very quiet What a surprise 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, SoloXI said: Wannae compare finishing positions? We both finished behind Italy. Football has went home. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacky1990 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 18 minutes ago, SoloXI said: ffs .. trust me, only moonhowlers are talking about Scotland tonight. Why would England care about how well the Scotland team is doing more than, say, Celtic care about how Falkirk are doing. Yeah, they are close by but .. ffs.. get real .. Says the man who has spent all night on a Scottish football forum talking to primarily Scottish people about the performance of the Scottish national team. Least you are aware youre a moonhowler though, thats a start. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, SoloXI said: Wannae compare finishing positions? Okay: Both losers. One of us expected our team to win outright. Get it fucking up you. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, Ric said: Not sure the point you are making, it's difficult to process combined with officially the worst comedian in the world being shown in gif format, but be aware, as Scots we only look small minded when celebrating an English defeat. No matter the amount of joy that brings, and trust me it's considerable, any nationalist has to rationalist that emotion. Don't get me wrong, I'm fucking ecstatic England lost, but ultimately we need to move on from that singular dimension. We are more than just the rivals to England. Using lots of big words won't make your point any less shite 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacky1990 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 What do Matt Hancock and football have in common? Neither are going home tonight. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambozpar Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, SoloXI said: Wannae compare finishing positions? Tears and snotters everywhere 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 See the thing about Danny Baker, he's not wrong btw - Southgate, imo, played the wrong team that were buoyed by that early goal. However he is also the epitome of the English support. When things are going well, somehow the English are from a God gifted "green and pleasant land" yet when the roles are reversed, it's no end of pillory and accusation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game of throw-ins Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Michael W said: I see Southgate's tactics are under fire. Yes, they were negative and boring, but they worked for the most part. They got England to a final even though some of their more talented attacking players were given limited game time. In particular, Foden and Sancho did not get much time on the field. The only time other than tonight I saw England really struggle was against Scotland and I think that's what spooked him. England were bested in midfield by a side that, from our own admission, are no world beaters. From there, the shape changed to a more Conservative approach. The use of Grealish seems to take most the heat, but what did he offer tonight? Southgate has him bang to right - a luxury player that cannot be trusted when the going gets tough because he is totally useless in a scrap. The main thing that got England to the final is a draw that meant that in a tournament they went into ranked eighth they got to the final without facing a team ranked in the top 6. Plus they played most of their games at home and got a penalty that was never a penalty in the semi-final. I'm not criticising Southgate for any of that, but football - fans, media, and professionals alike - loves to pretend that any team that reached the final of a tournament deserved to be there. It's bollocks. I'm still convinced that if England had faced France, Belgium or Spain the very probable outcome is that they'd have been comfortably beaten. And with a normal draw they'd have needed to beat at least one team of that calibre to reach the final. OK, that's the nature of cup football, luck is massive, and often semi-finalists, finalists and even winners can get there by avoiding better sides in the draw and maybe fluking one result against a team that would beat them far more often than not. But let's not kid ourselves that that necessarily means they are a better side than we thought, or that their manager is anything special. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 4 hours ago, greenockraver said: Kane making chiellini look like what he is . An old man . Sorry lad, but that has to go down as one of the worst shouts on P&B ever. And I'm a specialist at it! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 (edited) On the news England were just described as "lighting up the tournament". I'm sure Greece in 2004 didn't even have the brass neck to say they lit up the tournament. Edited July 12, 2021 by Mr. Brightside 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONTROOPER Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Boo Khaki said: Oh f**k me, still laughing at that Rashford penalty Axtually.....Marcus Rashford was one of the few England players I would get behind (politically) Why hasnt Southgate given him free reign? personally....as a Morton supporter...it doesnt keep me up at night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Grealish is brilliant in the right scenario, but has been utterly shite and worse than a man down for England when used in this tournament. I've no doubt that's a large part down to Southgate's tactics but he's clearly not the Gazza-esque figure they think he is. Neither is Foden for that matter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said: Grealish is brilliant in the right scenario, but has been utterly shite and worse than a man down for England when used in this tournament. I've no doubt that's a large part down to Southgate's tactics but he's clearly not the Gazza-esque figure they think he is. Neither is Foden for that matter. He can't be trusted defensively, it's that simple. And England's defence only looked decent in this tournament because they had a back 7 a lot of the time. Edited July 12, 2021 by Mr. Brightside 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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