EdinburghBlue Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Greenmachine said: Those grapes must be really sour? No, the better team won. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Joe Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Did any Buchanan avoid an early bath today? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) No question biggest stories are Cowdenbeath and Stranraer. Interesting to see the pendulum of strength continue to shift: it would've been unthinkable a few years ago to see 12-14 non-league clubs in R3 but particularly for them to break down as: 4x Lowland (with 1 more in replay), 3x East of Scotland, 2x West (maybe 3x), only 1x Highland (freshly-relegated Brechin: admittedly 2 more in replays), and 1x North Junior. Some very large crowds of almost 900 at Preston v Auchinleck plus almost 700 at Sauchie v Dunipace. R3 draw: Scottish Championship (10) Arbroath, Ayr United, Dunfermline Athletic, Greenock Morton, Hamilton Academical, Inverness Caledonian Thistle, Kilmarnock, Partick Thistle, Queen of the South, Raith Rovers SPFL1 (10) Airdrie, Alloa Athletic, Clyde, Cove Rangers, Dumbarton, East Fife, Falkirk, Montrose, Peterhead, Queen's Park SPFL2 (6) Annan Athletic, Edinburgh City, Forfar Athletic Kelty Hearts, Stenhousemuir, Stirling Albion Lowland League (4) Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic, Civil Service Strollers, East Kilbride, Gala Fairydean Rovers Highland League (1) Brechin City East of Scotland League (3) Lothian Thistle HV/Dunbar United, Sauchie, Tranent West of Scotland League (2) Auchinleck Talbot, Darvel North Juniors (1) Banks o'Dee tbc (3) Albion Rovers v Brora Rangers Clydebank v Elgin City Rothes v Dalbeattie Star Edited October 23, 2021 by HibeeJibee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoonsYouthTeam Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Interesting to see the pendulum of strength continue to shift: it would've been unthinkable a few years ago to see 12-14 non-league clubs in R3 but particularly for them to break down as: 4x Lowland (with 1 more in replay), 3x East of Scotland, 2x West (maybe 3x), only 1x Highland (freshly-relegated Brechin: admittedly 2 more in replays), and 1x North Junior.To be fair, only 2 League 2 clubs eliminated at this stage so far, I'm sure there must be years recently when more than 2 were eliminated at this stage? Highland League is interesting though, potentially only 1 team through, when would the last time that happened be? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdenbeath Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, LoonsYouthTeam said: To be fair, only 2 League 2 clubs eliminated at this stage so far, I'm sure there must be years recently when more than 2 were eliminated at this stage? Highland League is interesting though, potentially only 1 team through, when would the last time that happened be? There must be worse years at this stage for L2 sides. Neither exit is a great surprise. We’ve been poor for weeks but on the flip side the manager has gone. Darvel are well financed and have quite a few SPFL standard players. HJ is right poor year for the HL but with more southern teams coming in perhaps that was always going to be the case. Edited to add Two L2 sides lost in the First Round last season (the equivalent of this season’s Second Round) so no change. The season before five went out so the last two seasons have seen an improvement. Edited October 24, 2021 by cowdenbeath 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 The pendulum is likely to swing further away from the HL once more top WoS clubs like Pollok, Kilwinning and Hurlford are licensed, but on the flip side Banks o Dee could easily have replaced Fort William a year from now with the likes of Lochee United, Carnoustie Panmure, Tayport and Broughty Athletic likely to follow in the years ahead to provide more quality in depth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardle is Magic Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Yet still no automatic promotion to L2… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Interesting to see the pendulum of strength continue to shift: it would've been unthinkable a few years ago to see 12-14 non-league clubs in R3 but particularly for them to break down as: 4x Lowland (with 1 more in replay), 3x East of Scotland, 2x West (maybe 3x), only 1x Highland (freshly-relegated Brechin: admittedly 2 more in replays), and 1x North Junior.R3 used to only have 32 teams in it (16 SPFL Champ/L1 + 16 R1 winners) and now has 40 teams (20 SPFL Champ/L1 + 20 R1 winners) so that will be partly the reason.You're now guaranteed at least 10 non-league teams compared to just 6 guaranteed previously. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 (edited) Disappointing that fewer than half of ties appear to have had their attendance issued? Here are those that did: 678 Sauchie v Dunipace 608 Kelty v Buckie 401 Brechin v Haddington 395 Annan v Jeanfield 357 Stranraer v Darvel 352 Edinburgh City v Bo'ness Utd 282 Cowdenbeath v Civil Service Strollers 250 St Cuthbert v Gala (interestingly a groundhopper counted only 160!) 210 Dalbeattie v Rothes Edited October 24, 2021 by HibeeJibee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 17 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: Disappointing that fewer than half of ties appear to have had their attendance issued? Here are those that did: 678 Sauchie v Dunipace 608 Kelty v Buckie 401 Brechin v Haddington 395 Annan v Jeanfield 357 Stranraer v Darvel 352 Edinburgh City v Bo'ness Utd 282 Cowdenbeath v Civil Service Strollers 250 St Cuthbert v Gala (interestingly a groundhopper counted only 160!) 210 Dalbeattie v Rothes Crowd af East Stirlingshire v Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic was 348 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 18 hours ago, Cardle is Magic said: Yet still no automatic promotion to L2… It's not a proper pyramid if the league champions aren't automatically promoted and the bottom team aren't automatically relegated IMO. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardle is Magic Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 43 minutes ago, TheScarf said: It's not a proper pyramid if the league champions aren't automatically promoted and the bottom team aren't automatically relegated IMO. It’s been said before on P&B: 10th in L2 relegated HL winner vs LL winner gets promoted Defeated Play-Off team vs 9th in L2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenmachine Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 26 minutes ago, Cardle is Magic said: It’s been said before on P&B: 10th in L2 relegated HL winner vs LL winner gets promoted Defeated Play-Off team vs 9th in L2 LL is worse! 1 relegation place with 143 teams below! 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardle is Magic Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Greenmachine said: LL is worse! 1 relegation place with 143 teams below! I thought it was 2 from LL? Anyway, get L2 sorted first and let’s see that change progress through non-league. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrman2011 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Bottom of League 2 deserves to be relegated. And the Winner of the Highland/Lowland Play off deserves to be promoted No Play-offs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANKIEBILL Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, mrman2011 said: Bottom of League 2 deserves to be relegated. And the Winner of the Highland/Lowland Play off deserves to be promoted No Play-offs I'd go winner of HL v LL is auto promoted and 10th L2 auto relegated. Then 9th in L2 plays loser of HL v LL playoff. Def also need more than 1 relegated from LL. 2 at least. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 4 hours ago, Greenmachine said: LL is worse! 1 relegation place with 143 teams below! There are not 143 teams below, there are 51 teams below. You can't just count lower down teams regardless of the level they're at. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 4 hours ago, Greenmachine said: LL is worse! 1 relegation place with 143 teams below! If you are counting all of the teams below the LL, how can the LL be worse as by your logic the SPFL has over 200 teams below it, fighting for a play-off spot? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbionMan Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 On 23/10/2021 at 23:43, HibeeJibee said: No question biggest stories are Cowdenbeath and Stranraer. Interesting to see the pendulum of strength continue to shift: it would've been unthinkable a few years ago to see 12-14 non-league clubs in R3 but particularly for them to break down as: 4x Lowland (with 1 more in replay), 3x East of Scotland, 2x West (maybe 3x), only 1x Highland (freshly-relegated Brechin: admittedly 2 more in replays), and 1x North Junior. Some very large crowds of almost 900 at Preston v Auchinleck plus almost 700 at Sauchie v Dunipace. R3 draw: Scottish Championship (10) Arbroath, Ayr United, Dunfermline Athletic, Greenock Morton, Hamilton Academical, Inverness Caledonian Thistle, Kilmarnock, Partick Thistle, Queen of the South, Raith Rovers SPFL1 (10) Airdrie, Alloa Athletic, Clyde, Cove Rangers, Dumbarton, East Fife, Falkirk, Montrose, Peterhead, Queen's Park SPFL2 (6) Annan Athletic, Edinburgh City, Forfar Athletic Kelty Hearts, Stenhousemuir, Stirling Albion Lowland League (4) Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic, Civil Service Strollers, East Kilbride, Gala Fairydean Rovers Highland League (1) Brechin City East of Scotland League (3) Lothian Thistle HV/Dunbar United, Sauchie, Tranent West of Scotland League (2) Auchinleck Talbot, Darvel North Juniors (1) Banks o'Dee tbc (3) Albion Rovers v Brora Rangers Clydebank v Elgin City Rothes v Dalbeattie Star It's not really remarkable, this is a fairly new format. Round 2 comprised 30 non-league sides and 10 SPFL 2 teams. This guarantees a minimum of 10 non-league teams in round 3, if no league sides are drawn against each other. As it happened 2 SPFL teams lost to non-league with 2 other results outstanding and there were no SPFL 2 match ups. Of the 10 definitely through 8 defeated other non-league sides. The increase in numbers is a consequence of the format changes and the eligibility of more non-league sides to enter, by itself it is not an indication of an increase in non-league clubs' strengths. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 (edited) On 24/10/2021 at 23:28, HibeeJibee said: Disappointing that fewer than half of ties appear to have had their attendance issued? Here are those that did: 678 Sauchie v Dunipace 608 Kelty v Buckie 401 Brechin v Haddington 395 Annan v Jeanfield 357 Stranraer v Darvel 352 Edinburgh City v Bo'ness Utd 282 Cowdenbeath v Civil Service Strollers 250 St Cuthbert v Gala (interestingly a groundhopper counted only 160!) 210 Dalbeattie v Rothes On 24/10/2021 at 23:46, Dead said: Crowd af East Stirlingshire v Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic was 348 1,040 Clydebank v Elgin 876 Preston v Auchinleck 855 Dunbar v LTHV 519 Berwick v Stirling Albion 202 Broomhill v Tranent Edited October 26, 2021 by HibeeJibee 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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