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1 minute ago, theesel1994 said:

The SJFA put out earlier these were the proposed dates.

Round 1 21 Aug

Round 2 25 Sep

Round 3 23 Oct

Round 4 27 Nov

Remaining dates to to be confirmed.

The West had it as 30th October. Which is the one difference from what the West fixtures go up to.

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Think if the dates were 100% set they would have been on the twitter graphics. They may have to flexibly work around whatever happens in the EoS and WoS with the balance of the games being in June?

Not sure what to make of there being no Whitburn entry. Would have expected them to be one of the bitter enders on SJFA membership under this sort of scenario.

Looks like some WoS clubs have rejoined the SJFA? Maryhill for example.

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The SJFA put out earlier these were the proposed dates.
Round 1 21 Aug
Round 2 25 Sep
Round 3 23 Oct
Round 4 27 Nov
Remaining dates to to be confirmed.
So the EoS have fixtures on the dates allocated for rounds 1 and 2. I can't see them being cancelled to allow SJC games, so what then? I assume SJC replays will be binned, but what about postponements, when do these get played?
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1 minute ago, Burnieman said:
38 minutes ago, theesel1994 said:
The SJFA put out earlier these were the proposed dates.
Round 1 21 Aug
Round 2 25 Sep
Round 3 23 Oct
Round 4 27 Nov
Remaining dates to to be confirmed.

So the EoS have fixtures on the dates allocated for rounds 1 and 2. I can't see them being cancelled to allow SJC games, so what then? I assume SJC replays will be binned, but what about postponements, when do these get played?

So do the WoSFL as far as I can see

Who s organising this piss up? 🙂

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Clubs & leagues Entered
EoS Armadale Thistle
EoS Bathgate Thistle
EoS Fauldhouse United
EoS Livingston Utd
EoS Stoneyburn 
EoS Syngenta  
EoS West Calder Utd 
Midlands Arbroath Victoria
Midlands Blairgowrie
Midlands Brechin Victoria
Midlands Broughty Ath 
Midlands Carnoustie Panmure
Midlands Coupar Angus
Midlands Downfield
Midlands Dundee North End 
Midlands Dundee St James
Midlands Dundee Violet 
Midlands East Craigie
Midlands Forfar United 
Midlands Forfar West End
Midlands Kirriemuir Thistle 
Midlands Letham
Midlands Lochee Harp
Midlands Lochee Utd 
Midlands Scone Thistle
Midlands Tayport 
North Aberdeen East End
North Aberdeen Univ
North Banchory St Ternan
North Banks O Dee
North Bridge of Don Thistle
North Buchanhaven Hearts 
North Burghead Thistle
North Colony Park
North Cruden Bay
North Culter
North Deveronside 
North Dufftown
North Dyce 
North Ellon United
North Forres Thistle
North Fraserburgh United 
North Glentanar
North Hall Russell Utd
North Hermes 
North Islavale
North Longside 
North Maud 
North Montrose Roselea 
North Nairn St Ninian 
North New Elgin 
North Newmachar Utd
North Rothie Rovers 
North Stonehaven
North Stoneywood Parkvale
North Sunnybank 
North Whitehills
WoS Ardeer Thistle 
WoS Ardrossan Winton Rovers
WoS Arthurlie 
WoS Ashfield 
WoS Auchinleck Talbot 
WoS Beith
WoS Benburb 
WoS Blantyre Victoria 
WoS Cambuslang Rangers
WoS Carluke Rovers
WoS Craigmark Burntonians 
WoS Cumbernauld United
WoS Cumnock
WoS Dalry Thistle 
WoS East Kilbride Thistle
WoS Gartcairn 
WoS Girvan
WoS Glasgow Perthshire
WoS Glasgow United 
WoS Glenafton Athletic
WoS Greenock
WoS Harthill Royal 
WoS Hurlford Utd 
WoS Irvine Meadow 
WoS Irvine Victoria
WoS Johnstone Burgh
WoS Kello Rovers
WoS Kilbirnie Ladeside 
WoS Kilsyth Rangers
WoS Kirkintilloch Rob Roy 
WoS Lanark Utd 
WoS Largs Thistle
WoS Larkhall Thistle
WoS Lesmahagow
WoS Lugar Boswell Thistle
WoS Maryhill
WoS Maybole 
WoS Muirkirk
WoS Newmains Utd
WoS Petershill 
WoS Pollok
WoS Renfrew 
WoS Rossvale
WoS Saltcoats Victoria
WoS Shotts Bon Accord 
WoS St Anthony's
WoS St Rochs
WoS Thorniewood Utd
WoS Troon
WoS Vale of Leven
WoS Whitletts Victoria
WoS Wishaw 
WoS Yoker Ath 
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22 minutes ago, Burnieman said:
59 minutes ago, theesel1994 said:
The SJFA put out earlier these were the proposed dates.
Round 1 21 Aug
Round 2 25 Sep
Round 3 23 Oct
Round 4 27 Nov
Remaining dates to to be confirmed.

So the EoS have fixtures on the dates allocated for rounds 1 and 2. I can't see them being cancelled to allow SJC games, so what then? I assume SJC replays will be binned, but what about postponements, when do these get played?

I'm pretty sure they were binned last year as part of the changes. I'd be wondering if the Scottish Cup is returning to replays in 2021-22 as that could be just as disruptive in a few cases now.

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Posted (edited)

SJC1 (21/08)

Stonehaven v Syngenta

Cambuslang v Fauldhouse

Livingston v Stoneyburn

Saltcoats v West Calder

Bathgate v Vale of Leven

EoS (20/08)

Bo’ness Athletic v Bathgate

Syngenta v Stoneyburn

EoS (21/08)

Livingston v Fauldhouse

Peebles v West Calder (King Cup)

 

SJC2 (25/09)

Banks O’Dee/Harthill v Stonehaven/Syngenta

Newmains/Dalry v Bathgate/Vale of Leven

Rossvale v Cambuslang/Fauldhouse

Livingston/Stoneyburn v Cumbernauld/Kilbirnie

Armadale v Buchanhaven Hearts/Dyce

Downfield/Blantye Vics v Saltcoats/West Calder

EoS (24/09)

Bo’ness Athletic v Armadale

EoS (25/09)

Bathgate v Pumpherston

Edinburgh College v West Calder

Livingston v Syngenta

Stoneyburn v Whitburn

Kirkcaldy & Dysart v Fauldhouse (King Cup)

Edited by Burnieman
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Posted (edited)

The added complication is that the Scottish Cup / Alex Jack Cup entrants aren't fully confirmed and drawn yet, once you know that you can put First Division fixtures on 7th August and fixtures for the entire EOS on 28th August (plus EQC games). 

So for example, that Peebles fixture could be played on the 28th if they are already out of the AJC. Think there will be a bit of manoeuvring but I'm sure the Kenny/ies are up to it.

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You might not be far off the mark with that. I get the impression the SJFA want a national Cup from Tier 5 downwards.


Would be aswell being a open for all as it practically is with this set up. Honestly can’t believe they have allowed this. Minute any team joined East or West of Scotland they cease to be a junior team and therefore shouldn’t be anywhere near the junior cup.
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6 minutes ago, archieb said:

Burghead v Ardrossan has crept into R2 as well as R1 I see

They have made a complete arse of the draw or rather their posting of it afterwards. Listen to the draw and read it off what they have on the picture. The ties are all over the place. The numbers don't match what is being read out. I'll wager an Excel spreadsheet is involved in this somewhere and the list they have at the table does not match what is on the spreadsheet.

Notice how Kello Rovers does not have a number on that picture. That's where things have broken down.

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They have made a complete arse of the draw or rather their posting of it afterwards. Listen to the draw and read it off what they have on the picture. The ties are all over the place. The numbers don't match what is being read out. I'll wager an Excel spreadsheet is involved in this somewhere and the list they have at the table does not match what is on the spreadsheet.
Notice how Kello Rovers does not have a number on that picture. That's where things have broken down.
I was watching the draw and turned it off. It was a complete shambles .
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2 hours ago, Gazzah said:

Would be aswell being a open for all as it practically is with this set up. Honestly can’t believe they have allowed this. Minute any team joined East or West of Scotland they cease to be a junior team and therefore shouldn’t be anywhere near the junior cup.

 

Always assumed the EoS could do something analogous to having the "Beware of the Leopard" sign on the office where the plans for the demolition of Arthur Dent's house were kept at the start of The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy to make SJC participation completely impractical. Despite the fixture list issues highlighted above Armadale Thistle and some of the other would be WoS applicants appear to have decided to proceed anyway.  Interesting times ahead...

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7 hours ago, Marten said:

Away to Bridge of Don Thistle, nice trip up to Aberdeen.

Hate to say it but it really isn’t. Probably the worst place I’ve ever been to watch a game of football. Take binoculars…

Think back row of Hampden but colder, with 20odd parents of the players sitting on their hands, eyes watching everything you do, dismay at the thought of shouting/boisterous celebration and throw in that it’s basically a glorified, council-run leisure centre so nothing to drink, no smoking and a pack of committee types enforcing every rule to the letter…

0/10

Scoring 2 goals in the last 5 mins in the pitch black to pap them out the cup and falling over 3 rows of seats while celebrating…

Priceless

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7 hours ago, Spyro said:

Hate to say it but it really isn’t. Probably the worst place I’ve ever been to watch a game of football. Take binoculars…

Think back row of Hampden but colder, with 20odd parents of the players sitting on their hands, eyes watching everything you do, dismay at the thought of shouting/boisterous celebration and throw in that it’s basically a glorified, council-run leisure centre so nothing to drink, no smoking and a pack of committee types enforcing every rule to the letter…

0/10

Scoring 2 goals in the last 5 mins in the pitch black to pap them out the cup and falling over 3 rows of seats while celebrating…

Priceless

Then again, there are some good pubs nearby, so that will compensate a lot. ;) 

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Posted (edited)

So no net change in numbers terms in the West once Annbank are factored in:

https://www.nonleaguematters.co.uk/forums/index.php?threads/scottish-junior-cup-2021-22.4858/#post-101201

Interesting to see how many West clubs retained their SJFA membership - it seems to be 52 out of 63 with a question mark over Annbank who have sat this season out.

The ten clubs who have not are:

WoS Premier - Clydebank, Darvel, Kilwinning Rangers, Rutherglen Glencairn

WoS Conf A - Bellshill Athletic, Forth Wanderers

WoS Conf B - Port Glasgow Juniors, Royal Albert

WoS Conf C - Neilston, Vale of Clyde

So as was deduced in earlier posts Darvel and Vale of Clyde have left since last season but Newmains and Cambuslang Rangers have rejoined.

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