passbackdave Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 49 minutes ago, .Stuart. said: I don’t think it’s very fair on Meadow either to be fair. We’ll miss out on one of the largest travelling supports in the league and not forgetting our hospitality (which has been full every Saturday) will take a big hit too. There’s no reason this game couldn’t be played later on in the season. So basically this is 2 suit talbot? It wasnt really a dig at the teams more the fixtureman (who i think does a decent job) but what hes doing with this is f##ked up. 2 clubs losing out plus a cup taken priority over the league which is a shambles. Mon the papers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 hour ago, passbackdave said: So basically this is 2 suit talbot? It wasnt really a dig at the teams more the fixtureman (who i think does a decent job) but what hes doing with this is f##ked up. 2 clubs losing out plus a cup taken priority over the league which is a shambles. Mon the papers You'll need to explain how this suits Talbot? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 4 hours ago, passbackdave said: The whole thing is a shambles and kennie young should hold his head in shame. He has took on a difficult job (well hes making that way). Why do talbot n medda not play midweek and then we can travel 2 medda on a sat? Ill be there no matter wit day or time its at but loads of bankies cant make it and then we have a free saturday aswell. All 2 favour the ayrshire mobs. Because the winners of the cup tie then need to play Caley Braves in the next round (which was supposed to be on 5th March), and the quarter-finals are coming up on 2nd April. The rescheduled cup fixtures were published a couple of weeks ago, so it was clear that you wouldn't be playing Meadow on that date. Bit unfair on Meadow to not allow them to play their postponed cup game on a Saturday which is already set aside for the next round, no? And you've got a free Saturday because only Benburb and Kilbirnie are available and you've played them already. 3 hours ago, jimbaxters said: Looks like the SCC is being given priority over the league fixtures by giving them the Saturday slot, which would be strange given the bag of washing that a 38 match league season brings. Not really, this coming weekend is the date set aside in the fixture list for the 5th round, these are all published at the start of the season (the LL and EOS doesn't schedule any games on these dates until they know who is playing who). Postponed games are usually played on the date of the next round to avoid disruption to league games at short notice. Clubs without floodlights have to be given a Saturday slot at some point, otherwise they basically can't play a postponed game at home. Don't forget that Talbot are playing in the Junior Cup the following Saturday, with two semis coming up if they win that. 1 hour ago, .Stuart. said: I don’t think it’s very fair on Meadow either to be fair. We’ll miss out on one of the largest travelling supports in the league and not forgetting our hospitality (which has been full every Saturday) will take a big hit too. There’s no reason this game couldn’t be played later on in the season. You've only got two Saturdays left (in May), Kennie needs to get a champion crowned so a postponement or two or progressing in the SCC would take out those dates and push you close to the 14th May deadline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy25 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 So basically this is 2 suit talbot? It wasnt really a dig at the teams more the fixtureman (who i think does a decent job) but what hes doing with this is f##ked up. 2 clubs losing out plus a cup taken priority over the league which is a shambles. Mon the papersHow is this to suit Talbot? You'll need to explain that one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Gold Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 5 hours ago, andy25 said: 7 hours ago, passbackdave said: So basically this is 2 suit talbot? It wasnt really a dig at the teams more the fixtureman (who i think does a decent job) but what hes doing with this is f##ked up. 2 clubs losing out plus a cup taken priority over the league which is a shambles. Mon the papers How is this to suit Talbot? You'll need to explain that one. He can't. The fixture man is trying to get a league finished to find us a champion for the play-offs, but I suppose a Meadow v Pollok dead rubber is more important. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) 23 hours ago, Ginaro said: 1) Not really, this coming weekend is the date set aside in the fixture list for the 5th round, these are all published at the start of the season (the LL and EOS doesn't schedule any games on these dates until they know who is playing who). Postponed games are usually played on the date of the next round to avoid disruption to league games at short notice. 2) Clubs without floodlights have to be given a Saturday slot at some point, otherwise they basically can't play a postponed game at home. 3) Don't forget that Talbot are playing in the Junior Cup the following Saturday, with two semis coming up if they win that. 1) So yes, it is being given priority over league 2) Moot point as Meadow and Talbot both have floodlights 3) This should not have priority over league games either, at least not this season. Edited March 1, 2022 by jimbaxters 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 From the current WoSFL Constitution :- "35. It is mandatory for all eligible Clubs to compete in the Scottish FA Cup and South Challenge Cup each season as well as any cup competition under the auspices of the League. 36. Only competitions listed in rule B35 shall take precedence over any league or cup fixture organised by the League. The League competition shall take precedence over any other competition." The South Challenge Cup is not run by the WoSFL, so any criticism of the WoSFL Fixture Secretary over dates of South Challenge Cup ties is misplaced. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passbackdave Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 It benefits talbot cos its only half hour up the road so not impossible for fans 2 make it midweek rather than a midweek game v us or pollok. End of the day no cup should come before league. This is why we probably dont get a full fixture list Mon the papers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 minute ago, passbackdave said: It benefits talbot cos its only half hour up the road so not impossible for fans 2 make it midweek rather than a midweek game v us or pollok. End of the day no cup should come before league. This is why we probably dont get a full fixture list Mon the papers There wasn't a full fixture list at the start of the season due to concerns over COVID and prioritising everyone playing each other once in case of a shortened season. The EoS Premier will now be playing a 34 game league season, a minimum 4 games (3 for Tynecastle) in their League Cup due to a group stage, Scottish/AJC, SCC, and EoS Qualifying Cup. That's the same sort of commitment this season. They also give priority to the likes of the SCC on selected dates. 5th March has been scheduled for the SCC since the start of the season. The Irvine Meadow game was only ever provisional. If Talbot and Meadow had managed to play the game earlier. Which is far from certain considering the weather. There's the chance that Irvine Meadow would have been playing the Caledonian Braves on Saturday anyway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 8 hours ago, passbackdave said: It benefits talbot cos its only half hour up the road so not impossible for fans 2 make it midweek rather than a midweek game v us or pollok. End of the day no cup should come before league. This is why we probably dont get a full fixture list Mon the papers Tenuous. Anyway, it will all be fine when Clydebank get out of the WoSFL and get back to their rightful spot at the top of Scottish football. Spoiler -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
energyzone Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 I don’t think it’s very fair on Meadow either to be fair. We’ll miss out on one of the largest travelling supports in the league and not forgetting our hospitality (which has been full every Saturday) will take a big hit too.There’s no reason this game couldn’t be played later on in the season.You got a home Scottish Junior Cup match against Talbot played on a Saturday a few weeks ago when Talbot were several games behind in the league and should have had that day to play catch up with the league fixtures. So I don't think you've necessarily lost out here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Stuart. Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 You got a home Scottish Junior Cup match against Talbot played on a Saturday a few weeks ago when Talbot were several games behind in the league and should have had that day to play catch up with the league fixtures. So I don't think you've necessarily lost out here.Don’t know where you got that information. Our junior cup match was at Beechwood. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 (edited) Regardless, fans organise shifts at their work etc around going to see their team, plenty do it, tentative ‘you might be playing but we dont know yet’ stuff isnt fair on the fans, but suppose with reduced crowds going to the games away, Clydebank don’t get hurt in the pocket. It would be nice next year with a bit more clarity around covid etc to have a rigid fixture list and no saturdays given up for a voluntary cup. Edited March 2, 2022 by Inanimate Carbon Rod 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Regardless, fans organise shifts at their work etc around going to see their team, plenty do it, tentative ‘you might be playing but we dont know yet’ stuff isnt fair on the fans, but suppose with reduced crowds going to the games away, Clydebank don’t get hurt in the pocket. It would be nice next year with a bit more clarity around covid etc to have a rigid fixture list and no saturdays given up for a voluntary cup. That's the issue I would have. I don't see why Meadow v. Clydebank has to be pencilled in for next Wednesday depending on the outcome of Saturday's game. Unless Wednesday is a training day, it seems a bit short notice for players and fans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANKIEBILL Posted March 2, 2022 Author Share Posted March 2, 2022 7 hours ago, jimbaxters said: Tenuous. Anyway, it will all be fine when Clydebank get out of the WoSFL and get back to their rightful spot at the top of Scottish football. Reveal hidden contents You're a bad man 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 35 minutes ago, passbackdave said: It benefits talbot cos its only half hour up the road so not impossible for fans 2 make it midweek rather than a midweek game v us or pollok. End of the day no cup should come before league. This is why we probably dont get a full fixture list Not even the Scottish Cup, where league games had to be postponed because you progressed to round two and had a replay? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passbackdave Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 42 minutes ago, Ginaro said: Not even the Scottish Cup, where league games had to be postponed because you progressed to round two and had a replay? Yes league should always take priority even if it involves my club. Mon the papers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, passbackdave said: Yes league should always take priority even if it involves my club. Mon the papers Hopefully you don't ever get a run in the big Scottish Cup then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunrise Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 13 hours ago, jimbaxters said: Tenuous. Anyway, it will all be fine when Clydebank get out of the WoSFL and get back to their rightful spot at the top of Scottish football. Reveal hidden contents Did we not leave this patter behind when we left junior football? I did not miss it, during my long time away from forums and football. (I am doing well, in case you ask.) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Gold Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 4 hours ago, passbackdave said: Yes league should always take priority even if it involves my club. Mon the papers You should have told your players. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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