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That's a string of Scottish youngsters in recent years got moves to seria a 

Do you know how many 20 something third rate foreigners brought in by Scottish clubs have then gone on to seria a 

Zero 

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On 13/07/2022 at 15:17, accies1874 said:

Wonder if he'll get any game time at CB. Would be v helpful if he emerges as a Tierney deputy.
 

A second genuine top level centre-back would be brilliant - it would be exceptionally on brand for him to end up either a top level left-back or a top level-LCB, both of which are positions we are already strong in. Fingers crossed he turns out to be an absolute beast of a CCB!

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24 minutes ago, qos_75 said:

Sky have a decent article on how some Italian clubs, with Bologna in particular scouting Scotland for young talent. 

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They've twigged that Scottish sides will sell their talent for dirt cheap prices 

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10 hours ago, qos_75 said:

Sky have a decent article on how some Italian clubs, with Bologna in particular scouting Scotland for young talent. 

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Interesting chat on the Performance Schools too. Having the ex-head of the PS system telling everyone its great is a bit pointless, but at least to my untrained eye the system seems to be making a real difference.

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27 minutes ago, albagubrath said:

Interesting chat on the Performance Schools too. Having the ex-head of the PS system telling everyone its great is a bit pointless, but at least to my untrained eye the system seems to be making a real difference.

It does beg the question why the representational level teams are so honking.

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9 minutes ago, Savage Henry said:

It does beg the question why the representational level teams are so honking.

Shite managers at every level bar the senior team IMO.

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14 hours ago, Binos said:

They've twigged that Scottish sides will sell their talent for dirt cheap prices 

True. But that only lasts as long as only a few are paying attention. Competition increases prices - Netherlands and Portugal drive prices as high as the major leagues.

Very interesting to read that the success of Robertson was one of the reasons Bologna thought to look at Hickey and others.

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5 hours ago, TheScarf said:

Shite managers at every level bar the senior team IMO.

This is definitely part of it. Whilst the SFA are to be commended for their Performance School initiative, their view of the whole strategy is lacking. They've implemented a programme to bring through more technically able players than ever before, then dumped them in a regressive national team coaching platform that uses pump-it-long kick-and-rush tactics that were seen as out of date almost 30 years ago.

The PS strategy should also have come alongside a coaching strategy, as originally was the blueprint from Mark Wotte, to use the same style and system throughout the player's football education that both draws on the 'Scottish way' as well as focuses on the main skills they are learning in the PS system. If you teach them how to do it one way for years, but then when it comes to using the skills ask them to do it a different way, you are likely going to get poor results.

That and everyone else has been doing this sort of development for the best part of 50 years, so we are only playing catchup really, not getting ahead of the game. Our small player base means we will always struggle at unders levels, but if we bring through a number of top players every year we will have plenty of success at the top level.

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9 hours ago, HuttonDressedAsLahm said:

True. But that only lasts as long as only a few are paying attention. Competition increases prices - Netherlands and Portugal drive prices as high as the major leagues.

Very interesting to read that the success of Robertson was one of the reasons Bologna thought to look at Hickey and others.

And still Scottish clubs rather than giving 18 year olds a run will buy average overpaid 23 year olds etc from foreign leagues 

None of which ever produce any sell on value 

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6 hours ago, albagubrath said:

This is definitely part of it. Whilst the SFA are to be commended for their Performance School initiative, their view of the whole strategy is lacking. They've implemented a programme to bring through more technically able players than ever before, then dumped them in a regressive national team coaching platform that uses pump-it-long kick-and-rush tactics that were seen as out of date almost 30 years ago.

The PS strategy should also have come alongside a coaching strategy, as originally was the blueprint from Mark Wotte, to use the same style and system throughout the player's football education that both draws on the 'Scottish way' as well as focuses on the main skills they are learning in the PS system. If you teach them how to do it one way for years, but then when it comes to using the skills ask them to do it a different way, you are likely going to get poor results.

That and everyone else has been doing this sort of development for the best part of 50 years, so we are only playing catchup really, not getting ahead of the game. Our small player base means we will always struggle at unders levels, but if we bring through a number of top players every year we will have plenty of success at the top level.

That's what happens when you put someone in charge who used to run partick thistle (interchangeable with any other joke outfit)

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6 hours ago, albagubrath said:

This is definitely part of it. Whilst the SFA are to be commended for their Performance School initiative, their view of the whole strategy is lacking. They've implemented a programme to bring through more technically able players than ever before, then dumped them in a regressive national team coaching platform that uses pump-it-long kick-and-rush tactics that were seen as out of date almost 30 years ago.

The PS strategy should also have come alongside a coaching strategy, as originally was the blueprint from Mark Wotte, to use the same style and system throughout the player's football education that both draws on the 'Scottish way' as well as focuses on the main skills they are learning in the PS system. If you teach them how to do it one way for years, but then when it comes to using the skills ask them to do it a different way, you are likely going to get poor results.

That and everyone else has been doing this sort of development for the best part of 50 years, so we are only playing catchup really, not getting ahead of the game. Our small player base means we will always struggle at unders levels, but if we bring through a number of top players every year we will have plenty of success at the top level.

Or we adjust the whole performance academy goals and ideals. And we have wee guys absolutely launching it up to big guys.

I joke of course, but Scott Gemmill and Billy Stark are unsackable. Against any metric you wish to judge them on they have failed. Year on year. But just come back for the next campaign.

Unless they die or Inexplicably they get promoted to some sfa position for being such great guys and doing a great job.

Until the SFA is cleared out there will be no clear out, no plan, nothing will change.

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13 hours ago, Savage Henry said:

It does beg the question why the representational level teams are so honking.

Better than the other way around, on the 2000s we had youth teams going relievedly deep in euros/world cups.  Judging these results ultimately misses the point.   When training a 17/18/19 year old kid you are training them to be the best senior player they can be, not the best youth player.  If working on an element of a players game that makes them short term a worse player in youth matches but once you go through the process a better senior player then you do it every single time.

8 hours ago, albagubrath said:

This is definitely part of it. Whilst the SFA are to be commended for their Performance School initiative, their view of the whole strategy is lacking. They've implemented a programme to bring through more technically able players than ever before, then dumped them in a regressive national team coaching platform that uses pump-it-long kick-and-rush tactics that were seen as out of date almost 30 years ago.

The PS strategy should also have come alongside a coaching strategy, as originally was the blueprint from Mark Wotte, to use the same style and system throughout the player's football education that both draws on the 'Scottish way' as well as focuses on the main skills they are learning in the PS system. If you teach them how to do it one way for years, but then when it comes to using the skills ask them to do it a different way, you are likely going to get poor results.

That and everyone else has been doing this sort of development for the best part of 50 years, so we are only playing catchup really, not getting ahead of the game. Our small player base means we will always struggle at unders levels, but if we bring through a number of top players every year we will have plenty of success at the top level.

Wotte was a slavering c**t.

Keeping the same system has some benefits,  but last thing we want is if a senior manager changes all the players can't handle the change then that's a problem. we want adaptable players.  I am 100% against being stuck on a philosophy or 'scottish way.  We want our manager to be able to pick a system and players every match based on the opponent.' 

 

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And still Scottish clubs rather than giving 18 year olds a run will buy average overpaid 23 year olds etc from foreign leagues 
None of which ever produce any sell on value 

The 18 year-olds are mostly being bought by English clubs before they've even had a chance to get first team football.
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