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24 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

From Voice of Reason's old posts it looks like he is probably linked to Preston Athletic in some way who along with Spartans and Threave Rovers were heavily involved with the process of forming the LL as I think they were the first EoS and SoS clubs to get licensed. Don't doubt something like this may have been said at some point in meetings but that's very different from something being voted on by LL clubs at a general meeting after that league had been constituted.

I think it's quite telling that people who followed this topic closely over the years don't remember anything being said publicly about this at the time. I certainly don't. If west junior clubs had known that there was a 16 club west division to potentially be filled at tier 5 it probably would have been a lot easier to turn the various expressions of interest on surveys from clubs like Clydebank into applications. Can remember accusations from well-connected Clydebank fans on here that Spartans were the ones primarily running the show and had treated junior clubs as an afterthought.   

I can certainly imagine it being mentioned, particularly in the context of a two parallel East and West Lowland League scenario. I'm not clear if this is what @Voice of Reason is referring to,.or if they're talking about a two division structure with relegation/promotion, the Lowland League 2 scenario. The three Tier 5 Highland/Lowland East/Lowland West suggestion would've quickly been nixed and I can't imagine it was ever a serious plan put to the members, even if geographically it makes sense.

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5 minutes ago, Cyclizine said:

The three Tier 5 Highland/Lowland East/Lowland West suggestion

That's always seemed the way to go, maybe it will still happen eventually with the North/South divide getting more imbalanced with the top Junior sides finally breaking through in the South.

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1 hour ago, LongTimeLurker said:

From Voice of Reason's old posts it looks like he is probably linked to Preston Athletic in some way who along with Spartans and Threave Rovers were heavily involved with the process of forming the LL as I think they were the first EoS and SoS clubs to get licensed. Don't doubt something like this may have been said at some point in meetings but that's very different from something being voted on by LL clubs at a general meeting after that league had been constituted.

I think it's quite telling that people who followed this topic closely over the years don't remember anything being said publicly about this at the time. I certainly don't. If west junior clubs had known that there was a 16 club west division to potentially be filled at tier 5 it probably would have been a lot easier to turn the various expressions of interest on surveys from clubs like Clydebank into applications. Can remember accusations from well-connected Clydebank fans on here that Spartans were the ones primarily running the show and had treated junior clubs as an afterthought.   

Edinburgh city where the main driver to get the LL up and running along with Preston ath.and whitehill.

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19 minutes ago, BornOffside said:

Si Ferry has been finally announced as manager of "Open Goal Broomhill FC". Seems like a rebranding of the club along with the new appointment.

Sooner they go bust, the better. 

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1 hour ago, FairWeatherFan said:

Berwick Rangers Vice-Chair not happy with what's going on.

 

So two "guest" clubs are fine but three is the line in the sand.

It's a bit rich to shite the bed and then declare you don't want to sleep in it.

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Colin Boyd, Chairman of Kilwinning Rangers made a hypothetical point on that thread that if one club refused to play the colts they (the Colt teams) would be gone within a year.

Where would a club stand if they refused to play one of these entities? Are they considered regular members of the league and ties against them require to be played?

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Colin would be better getting together with the EOS and SOS representatives on the South Challenge Cup committee to vote out the LL teams in that competition.

10 minutes ago, energyzone said:

Colin Boyd, Chairman of Kilwinning Rangers made a hypothetical point on that thread that if one club refused to play the colts they (the Colt teams) would be gone within a year.

Where would a club stand if they refused to play one of these entities? Are they considered regular members of the league and ties against them require to be played?

Obligations

B16 All Clubs will agree to fulfil the fixtures cast by the League, adhere to the League Constitution and Rules for a period of twelve (12) months from the commencement of each football season and abide by the decisions of the Board, subject to the right of appeal as provided for under the current Judicial Panel protocol of the Scottish FA.

B17 Each Club will be liable for a fine and/or expulsion from the competition in the event of their not fulfilling the obligations imposed on them by their acceptance of membership. The amount of fine on any one count will be subject to a maximum of Five Hundred Pounds (£500). All fines must be paid within fourteen (14) days; otherwise the offending Club will cease to be a member of the League

Fixtures

H5 Clubs shall receive a fixture list from the Secretary. Fixtures will be cast between a date to be decided by the Board and 31st May in the succeeding year and Clubs will be required to fulfil fixtures between those dates.

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4 hours ago, Ginaro said:

Colin would be better getting together with the EOS and SOS representatives on the South Challenge Cup committee to vote out the LL teams in that competition.


Most of them wouldn't care anyway because they'd get knocked out the moment they draw a half decent Tier 6 or 7 team.

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Colin would be better getting together with the EOS and SOS representatives on the South Challenge Cup committee to vote out the LL teams in that competition.
Obligations
B16 All Clubs will agree to fulfil the fixtures cast by the League, adhere to the League Constitution and Rules for a period of twelve (12) months from the commencement of each football season and abide by the decisions of the Board, subject to the right of appeal as provided for under the current Judicial Panel protocol of the Scottish FA.
B17 Each Club will be liable for a fine and/or expulsion from the competition in the event of their not fulfilling the obligations imposed on them by their acceptance of membership. The amount of fine on any one count will be subject to a maximum of Five Hundred Pounds (£500). All fines must be paid within fourteen (14) days; otherwise the offending Club will cease to be a member of the League
Fixtures
H5 Clubs shall receive a fixture list from the Secretary. Fixtures will be cast between a date to be decided by the Board and 31st May in the succeeding year and Clubs will be required to fulfil fixtures between those dates.

Could sign a team from five a sides for the colts games as the points don’t could anyway and save the legs for the real games.
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I’ve heard from someone who was at last Monday’s AGM that not one person put themselves forward for the 4 available positions to be on the board, they are left with a chairman and vice chairman! How can they possibly operate like this??

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