come on shire Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 On 04/01/2022 at 01:24, MAC THE KNIFE said: OMANS BAR , 1 PEFFER STREET ( EH16 4BA ) OR GREY HORSE . 200 DALKEITH ROAD ( EH16 5DT )MIGHT DO I couldn't contact them to make a booking coz of the carry on with the rules. Booked into The Pear Tree though for after the Shire game. Thanks anyways... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC THE KNIFE Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 UR A BIT OLD FOR THE PEAR TREE ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mantis Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 BBC website showing Bonnyrigg v Spartans P-P on Saturday. I think this will come as a surprise to both clubs... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyramid Watcher Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 VoL v Berwick off this Saturday due to “ medical reasons” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdenbeath Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 55 minutes ago, The Mantis said: BBC website showing Bonnyrigg v Spartans P-P on Saturday. I think this will come as a surprise to both clubs... BBC always make an arse of the LL results etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GNU_Linux Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) Goals galore in Grangemouth & Cumbernauld. Bad day all round for the Vale suffering a drubbing in Pilton & Gretna grabbing a surprise point against Celtic B. Edited January 15, 2022 by GNU_Linux 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LowerLeagueFC Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Seems to me the gap between the bottom half of Lowland League and the top of East of Scotland league is not a gap at all. Couldn’t speak for West or South as haven’t seen any teams from those leagues but would imagine West the same. Which in turn makes the promotion/relegation system even more farcical. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitburn Vale Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, LowerLeagueFC said: Seems to me the gap between the bottom half of Lowland League and the top of East of Scotland league is not a gap at all. Couldn’t speak for West or South as haven’t seen any teams from those leagues but would imagine West the same. Which in turn makes the promotion/relegation system even more farcical. Maybe if they'd showed a bit of balls and jumped into the pyramid quicker then it wouldn't be so...... It was there for them but they chose to stay junior while others like Kelty saw what was coming and moved over....... It will sort itself out north,south,east and west,just gonna take a bit of time ..... Edited January 23, 2022 by Whitburn Vale 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinderbrokeyourhearts Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Maybe I'd they'd showed a bit of balls and jumped into the pyramid quicker then it wouldn't be so...... It was there for them but they chose to stay junior while others like Kelty saw what was coming and moved over....... It will sort itself out north,south,east and west,just gonna take a bit of time .....To be fair Kelty have a huge backer so financially it didn’t matter to them.The SPFL and SFA have shown they are far from perfect in implementing the pyramid properly so the hesitation from the other teams was warranted. If you look at the attendance information, each team in the LL could have 100-150 more away fans (for around another 6 games if the largest clubs replace the bottom 6 over time) at least within a few seasons if relegation opened up to two teams. That money will eventually talk as that equates to around £1,500 or so for each of those games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 30 minutes ago, grinderbrokeyourhearts said: If you look at the attendance information, each team in the LL could have 100-150 more away fans (for around another 6 games if the largest clubs replace the bottom 6 over time) at least within a few seasons if relegation opened up to two teams. That money will eventually talk as that equates to around £1,500 or so for each of those games. Never knew games were decided by crowd wanks. On your scenario Arbroath shouldn't be anywhere near the top of the championship. EK and the likes of Strollers and Spartans have never claimed to have large crowds are plodding along quite nicely in front of the ex SPFL teams and a well supported ex EOS Junior side who you just happen to miss out being mid table or 7TH bottom. With the West now involved and the play off as it is its gonnae be a while before an Eos 6 might even get a sniff of the LL. Just got to be patient for your reasoning as unfortunately it doesn't look like the LL will be opening up anytime soon. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinderbrokeyourhearts Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Never knew games were decided by crowd wanks. On your scenario Arbroath shouldn't be anywhere near the top of the championship. EK and the likes of Strollers and Spartans have never claimed to have large crowds are plodding along quite nicely in front of the ex SPFL teams and a well supported ex EOS Junior side who you just happen to miss out being mid table or 7TH bottom. With the West now involved and the play off as it is its gonnae be a while before an Eos 6 might even get a sniff of the LL. Just got to be patient for your reasoning as unfortunately it doesn't look like the LL will be opening up anytime soon. You’re missing the point. Arbroath are there on merit with the opportunity to progress. The LL are restricting the progress of teams who are clearly better than the teams above them.It’s one of the reasons the juniors waited so long was the lack of trust in the pyramid to do the right thing. That being at least two up two down from league 2 and below. You only need to look at Whitehill to see the direction those teams will go. Until this is sorted it’ll always be looked at as a bit of a diddy league where the top teams spank the lower teams.As for your point on the west. Not scared of any of them in a playoff tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, grinderbrokeyourhearts said: The LL are restricting the progress of teams who are clearly better than the teams above them. It’s one of the reasons the juniors waited so long was the lack of trust in the pyramid to do the right thing. That being at least two up two down from league 2 and below. You only need to look at Whitehill to see the direction those teams will go. The Lowland League haven't exactly restricted anything. They've just not opened up as much as some people would like. It was the LL that waited on Bonnyrigg getting confirmation on a licence that would relegate one of their existing members. They accepted Bo'ness United and probably would have included in a SoS champion if they were licenced in 2020. They also put VoL out on a shoogly peg in 2021 where they would have likely been relegated if Tier 6 leagues had declared a champion. You can't blame the LL for the Juniors having a lack of trust and waiting to see what it's all about. The Juniors had the chance to shape the pyramid. Ignored that opportunity and then came up with a plan to replace with a Lowland Superleague. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 It's really time this juniors waited too long to join patter was put to rest. That's ancient history now. There is no excuse for not having a minimum of two automatic relegations happening per season regardless of the various permutations that can happen on the Club 42 playoff. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinderbrokeyourhearts Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Totally agree. Us and then should be gone and it should be how to make the whole Scottish football as a product better and that obviously starts with automatic promotion and relegation to let everyone find their level.Self preservation at every turn really and just as predicted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 hours ago, grinderbrokeyourhearts said: To be fair Kelty have a huge backer so financially it didn’t matter to them. The SPFL and SFA have shown they are far from perfect in implementing the pyramid properly so the hesitation from the other teams was warranted. If you look at the attendance information, each team in the LL could have 100-150 more away fans (for around another 6 games if the largest clubs replace the bottom 6 over time) at least within a few seasons if relegation opened up to two teams. That money will eventually talk as that equates to around £1,500 or so for each of those games. But that's the price to pay for the delay. The SJFA also had absolutely no part to play in all of this? Agreed that the SFA, and SPFL, have also played their part. If it was only cautiousness which caused them to be to so ineffective you might forgive them but self serving was also a part. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinderbrokeyourhearts Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 We’ll agree to disagree but we should all be pulling in the same direction.You could also say that those ex juniors in the East who came across early now have less of a chance of promotion now those from the West are in.It doesn’t take a genius to see two teams up and two down from an 18 team league is needed. It’s just delaying the inevitable and delaying improving what could be a top competitive league if managed well. Vale of Leithen can’t enjoy losing over 100 goals in half a season and those scoring those goals are learning nothing imo. Sooner we have a right good non league product the better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dev said: But that's the price to pay for the delay. The only price being paid right now is from the cost of two COVID interrupted seasons. Bo'ness would have replaced VoL instead of join them. 2021 would have seen another Tier 6 champion promoted. There may have been a 2nd Tier 5 club promoted to the SPFL instead of just Kelty and the LL Playoff probably would have been changed for this season or next. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 I agree that LL should have more promotion slots and league 2 should be automatically relegating 10th at worst. However there’s a complete lack of understanding of how things work in Scottish football. Blaming the SFA for example like they have any authority. If your auntie had baws and the SJFA properly engaged a decade ago things might have been different but we are where we are now. There’s no point in screaming about what you think should happen, you need to present arguments about how you encourage clubs to vote for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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