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On 07/11/2021 at 15:29, EdinburghLivi said:

First ever LL game for me yesterday - CSS 0-1 Dalbeattie. Very strong wind largely ruined the game as a spectacle but Strollers still managed to pass it about well for most of the game. 

Dalbeattie goal came in the first half with the wind behind them. Long ball caught the Strollers keeper in two minds and the Dalbeattie player managed to beat him to the ball before rounding and rolling into an empty net from a tight angle.

Strollers had most of the play throughout and tested the opposition keeper more but Dalbeattie defended well, particularly their #5 who was very commanding. Joao Balde for Strollers looks a great player who could manage a step up.

A lot of the Strollers players looked good and it's easy to see why they've had such a good season so far. Hoping to get to next Saturday's game against Berwick as well. Enjoyable afternoon despite the conditions.

Much better game today. 

Strollers got what looked a soft penalty very early on which Alieu Faye passed to the keeper. Berwick came into the game more as the half went on and a draw was pretty fair at half time. 

Strollers went ahead from a long throw with Faye winning a header and someone bundling the ball into the net to take a deserved lead. They then got a stonewall penalty which was also missed before Faye scored the rebound to make it 2-0.

Deserved win for CSS. Lots of good players in their team, hopefully they can give Peterhead a game in a few weeks time.

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Will be interesting to see the new version of the LL constitution when they sort out the gmail attachment issue:

https://slfl.co.uk/rules/lowland-league-rules/

Scottish Lowland Football League

Constitution and Rules

Version 18 (Click the link below to view PDF document)

SLFL Rules Version 18

Updated: 01/11/2021

The revision date provided lines up perfectly with this tweet:

 

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23 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

Will be interesting to see the new version of the LL constitution when they sort out the gmail attachment issue:

https://slfl.co.uk/rules/lowland-league-rules/

Scottish Lowland Football League

Constitution and Rules

Version 18 (Click the link below to view PDF document)

SLFL Rules Version 18

Updated: 01/11/2021

The revision date provided lines up perfectly with this tweet:

 

The Pyramid Playoff was updated and can be seen in the SPFL Rules and Regulations. SPFL clubs confirmed as being able to pick which league they are relgated into, leagues having to agree, and the SFA being the final arbiter if there's a conflict.

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By not later than 14 July in each year, except in 2021 when the last date shall be 30
November 2021, each Club entitled to participate in the lowest Division of the SPFL
(currently League Two), in the immediately succeeding Season, shall, subject to Rule
III(c)(ii), notify the Secretary of the SPFL in writing of which of the SHFL or the SLFL it
elects to be relegated to, become a member of and participate in, in the event that it
is Club 42 at the end of the immediately succeeding Season and loses the Pyramid
Play-Off Tie at the end of that Season (“Club Notification”). The Secretary of the SPFL
shall notify each of the SHFL, SLFL and Scottish FA of each of such Club Notifications
by not later than 31 July, except in 2021 when the date shall be 14 December 2021 of
the relevant year and thereafter a duly authorised representative of each of the SPFL,
SHFL and SLFL shall meet to agree whether each Club Notification shall be approved.
In the event of unanimous agreement by each of the SPFL, SHFL and SLFL, each Club
Notification shall be so approved and shall be binding on all parties. In the event that
one or more of the SPFL, SHFL and SLFL do not agree with any one or more of such
Club Notifications, the Scottish FA Board shall determine which of the SHFL or SLFL the
Club in question shall be relegated to in the event that it shall become Club 42 and

lose the Pyramid Play-Off Tie at the end of the relevant Season.

There will also be a list seemingly published by the SFA that will say which league a club will end up in.

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The Scottish FA shall as early as possible during a Season and, in any event, by
not later than 31 August in each Season, except in Season 2021/22 when the
relevant date shall be 31 January 2022, publish a list of the Club Notifications
approved, deemed Club Notifications and Scottish FA Selections applying for
each Club participating in the lowest Division in the SPFL in that Season.

 

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Line of latitude completely gone so there is no longer any apparent anomaly where Luncarty, Letham, Scone and Tayport are concerned. I doubt there's any huge enthusiasm in EoS circles to drive to Dundee and beyond for away games so Forfar WE, Broughty and North End are unlikely to receive a positive response in the unlikely event that they tried again because they fancy trips to a West Lothian heavy tier 9.

The EoS managed to get the east region eliminated as a potential rival LL feeder over almost all of their perceived catchment before this rule change happened so any mission creep is more likely to be southwards by the Midlands League to expand on their somewhat limited numbers rather than northwards by the EoS to expand further on their already bloated ones but there probably won't be anything too dramatic going on if it ever happens.

Nothing retrospective in the rules to get Brechin City into the LL after the fact but that doesn't mean nothing is happening behind the scenes on that. It isn't Forfar, Montrose or especially Arbroath that were the main inspiration for this rule change. Brechin have been playing well enough in recent weeks that there is a fair to middling chance they will get promoted this season so that possibility probably has to unfold first.

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From past posts it seems to be that the SFA is demanding that the LL comes up with solutions to the promotion/relegation situation with Tier 6  ... so all that's needed now is for the SFA to sort out automatic relegation from SPFL2.

LLL what's your betting odds on that happening?

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If that was meant to be LTL my take would be that I wouldn't get your hopes up too much about the second bit as the SFA are unlikely to ever have as much leverage over the SPFL as they did this season where the LL is concerned courtesy of George Fraser where colt team rule changes were concerned. Will be interesting to see if the LL had to commit to anything else. Hopefully the pro/rel issue with the tier 6 feeders gets sorted at their next AGM but seeing will be believing on that one as it probably isn't as high a priority for the SFA.  

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1 hour ago, Deanburn Dave said:

Lowland League website announces all clubs need to have in place arrangements so that all players, managers, coaches etc have to test daily for COVID from Monday 27 December.

better hope their is enough lateral flow tests. Surely over the top when the government advice is to test when u go anywhere.

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On 21/12/2021 at 11:02, LongTimeLurker said:

Line of latitude completely gone so there is no longer any apparent anomaly where Luncarty, Letham, Scone and Tayport are concerned. I doubt there's any huge enthusiasm in EoS circles to drive to Dundee and beyond for away games so Forfar WE, Broughty and North End are unlikely to receive a positive response in the unlikely event that they tried again because they fancy trips to a West Lothian heavy tier 9.

The EoS managed to get the east region eliminated as a potential rival LL feeder over almost all of their perceived catchment before this rule change happened so any mission creep is more likely to be southwards by the Midlands League to expand on their somewhat limited numbers rather than northwards by the EoS to expand further on their already bloated ones but there probably won't be anything too dramatic going on if it ever happens.

Nothing retrospective in the rules to get Brechin City into the LL after the fact but that doesn't mean nothing is happening behind the scenes on that. It isn't Forfar, Montrose or especially Arbroath that were the main inspiration for this rule change. Brechin have been playing well enough in recent weeks that there is a fair to middling chance they will get promoted this season so that possibility probably has to unfold first.

Just one question .  Why would Brechin want to swap to the LL at any stage in the future ?  ( promotion excepted of course ) Just curious as to the external thinking .

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On 21/12/2021 at 11:02, LongTimeLurker said:

Line of latitude completely gone so there is no longer any apparent anomaly where Luncarty, Letham, Scone and Tayport are concerned. I doubt there's any huge enthusiasm in EoS circles to drive to Dundee and beyond for away games so Forfar WE, Broughty and North End are unlikely to receive a positive response in the unlikely event that they tried again because they fancy trips to a West Lothian heavy tier 9.

The EoS managed to get the east region eliminated as a potential rival LL feeder over almost all of their perceived catchment before this rule change happened so any mission creep is more likely to be southwards by the Midlands League to expand on their somewhat limited numbers rather than northwards by the EoS to expand further on their already bloated ones but there probably won't be anything too dramatic going on if it ever happens.

Nothing retrospective in the rules to get Brechin City into the LL after the fact but that doesn't mean nothing is happening behind the scenes on that. It isn't Forfar, Montrose or especially Arbroath that were the main inspiration for this rule change. Brechin have been playing well enough in recent weeks that there is a fair to middling chance they will get promoted this season so that possibility probably has to unfold first.

It is fascinating the way that the Pyramid is evolving. Just when we thought that we were getting some certainty and common sense with the ERJFA Midland League feeding into the Highland League along with the NRJFA North Region League and North Caledonian League, the line of latitude separating the HL and LL gets blitzed.

I think the ramifications are much wider than SPFL2 clubs simply electing to determine whether they would drop into the HL or LL catchment in the event of relegation following play-off of Club 42. I think that dropping the HL/LL boundary will open the doors for ML clubs to participate in the Tier 5/6 LL Play-offs. It would not make sense for say Arbroath or Montrose choosing the LL over the HL as a destination, while Lochee or Broughty to the south would only have the option of playing in the HL.

It will be very interesting to see what the LL Working Group are going to determine for Tier 5/6 Promotion/Relegation. With potentially two promotion places from Tier 6, this would open up the possibility of both a western and an eastern play-off. The western play-off would be between the licensed champions of the WOSFL and SOSFL. The eastern play-off would be between the licensed champions of the EOSFL and ML. The ML champion might of course opt to participate in the play-offs to the HL, but in the case of Dundee clubs I believe this would be unlikely.

It will be interesting to see whether clubs like Luncarty and Kinnoull drift back to their family group in the ML. At the current time I think this to be unlikely as EOSFL Tier 7 will provide highly  competitive football with most of the prospective opponents being reasonably accessible in terms travelling times. Newburgh and St Andrews, who potentially will be in Tier 8, will have a few trips to the Scottish Borders. However, the football will be competitive with the opportunity for advancement to Tier 7.

Looking in my crystal ball, I still feel that the SOSFL might eventually have a promotion link into the WOSFL Premier and similarly the ML into the EOSFL Premier. But this will take time to materialise. Time will tell.

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16 minutes ago, Pyramidic said:

It is fascinating the way that the Pyramid is evolving. Just when we thought that we were getting some certainty and common sense with the ERJFA Midland League feeding into the Highland League along with the NRJFA North Region League and North Caledonian League, the line of latitude separating the HL and LL gets blitzed.

The NCL, Midlands, and North Region are tied into the Highland League. The WoSFL, EoSFL, and SoSFL are tied into the Lowland League. The line became rather arbitrary after that happened with multiple examples on the "wrong" side.

 

16 minutes ago, Pyramidic said:

I think the ramifications are much wider than SPFL2 clubs simply electing to determine whether they would drop into the HL or LL catchment in the event of relegation following play-off of Club 42. I think that dropping the HL/LL boundary will open the doors for ML clubs to participate in the Tier 5/6 LL Play-offs.

The SPFL2 clubs don't simply elect. The leagues have a say and the SFA become the final arbiter if it cannot be resolved.

There isn't a way for the Midlands League to get into the LL Play-offs as all the same problems that caused them to sit outside the pyramid for years still exist. As the key conflicts there had little to do with the HL/LL boundary. Individual clubs can try and flip flop if they want to go from Tier 6 to Tier 9 or vice versa.

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Merry Christmas!

Couldn't resist checking for late posts!

As said, the HL and LL now have their feeder leagues at Tier 6 so if a Perth (city) side or a Fife side decides to go to the Midlands League and another Luncarty type side or even a Dundee side wishes to go to the EoS it will be down to these leagues to make their own minds up. However, neither the HL or the LL would be able to reject them on the basis of their geographical position.

 

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The biggest shock of the year  ....... Not! 

Both teams should be emptied out the league. They have no respect for the competition and suit themselves on the scheduling of games at every opportunity.

RANGERS can confirm that the Old Firm B team game scheduled on 31st December has been postponed.

Tickets purchased can be retained and used for the revised fixture. A new date will be communicated in due course. One of the key objectives and benefits of our involvement in the Lowland League is to expose our young players to playing in front of large crowds during games especially an Old Firm. We look forward to rescheduling this game and thank supporters for their understanding.

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