Kelheart Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Personally I think funding will stop from GM and rightly so as he’s put his money where his mouth is to get us this far and hopefully league1 this is where I think we will hopefully settle Would be more than happy to plod along at this level with maybe a chance of promotion every now and again , a decent cup run etc don’t think that’s out with our grasp if current crowds stay the same and better away crowds rocking up Certainly a lot better than the Juniors were anyway 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Neilly said: There's no sour grapes merely just pointing it out for what it is. There is no sustainable model for Kelty long term as there crowds will never cover what they are currently paying in wages. I was talking about this with others at our game yesterday and it's not something I'd want at our club. Winning a league title at a canter in that Gretna/Kelty style just feels a little hollow and not organic. I'm not familiar with their finances. Gretna was a whole different level, as they were professional and playing the top-flight, which was just ridiculous. Kelty are winning the bottom tier, just as Cove has previously. Neither seem to be on the level of Gretna. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeltyDaft Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Neilly said: Your crowd against us last week was 571. How can you honestly say paying the likes of Forster, Cardle, Higgy, Austin, Tidser and so on is sustainable with that kind of crowd? If you think it is then you operate from a different planet than I do, or certainly anyone who knows football at this level. Kelty fans seem oblivious it's pretty bizarre stuff. Which was one of the poorest turnouts of the season coincidentally - yesterday was over 800. do you know something we don’t regarding the wage bill for KH? Or are you speculating? youre speculative opinion is based on rumours he said she said stuff and you seem to be highly motivated by the Gretna narrative. KH has a corporate sponsorship package for all areas which is easily found on their website which will recover a portion of the costs associated with the club, gate entries also contribute to this. most players are brought in on free transfers and intact the players you mentioned were free agents. so tell me, how ambitious club driving forward is somehow code word for Gretna in the eyes of the sour grapes of some fans? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 My lord. You are blinkered beyond belief so little point having this going back and forth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mr_malcolm Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 It’s amazing how kelty fans deny that their players are on big wages 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeltyDaft Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Just now, Neilly said: My lord. You are blinkered beyond belief so little point having this going back and forth. Either that or you’re an arsepiece who doesn’t have a comeback to that. stick to stenny and chugging yourself off to mediocrity with swift and the BSC rejects 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onecowden Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Either that or you’re an arsepiece who doesn’t have a comeback to that. stick to stenny and chugging yourself off to mediocrity with swift and the BSC rejectsPersonal insults. No need. IMO. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Forbes Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Kelty's average attendance so far this season is just under 800. If they progress up to League 1 it's likely that they will have less success, so lower attendances would be expected as a result. Currently there are several sides in League 1 whose average attendances are in the 600's, so if Kelty can attain this then it's possible that they could survive at League 1 without the extra money being put into the club at the moment. It's no secret that no club survives only on gate money, so a lot will depend on income raised through sources other than the money coming through the gate, and Kelty do have a very active and dedicated committee, so I would be confident that club won't become another "Gretna". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leomessi1984 Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Robert Forbes said: Kelty's average attendance so far this season is just under 800. If they progress up to League 1 it's likely that they will have less success, so lower attendances would be expected as a result. Currently there are several sides in League 1 whose average attendances are in the 600's, so if Kelty can attain this then it's possible that they could survive at League 1 without the extra money being put into the club at the moment. It's no secret that no club survives only on gate money, so a lot will depend on income raised through sources other than the money coming through the gate, and Kelty do have a very active and dedicated committee, so I would be confident that club won't become another "Gretna". Most sensible post on here for some time! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Forbes Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 hour ago, leomessi1984 said: Most sensible post on here for some time! Thank you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 7 hours ago, KeltyDaft said: Either that or you’re an arsepiece who doesn’t have a comeback to that. stick to stenny and chugging yourself off to mediocrity with swift and the BSC rejects Utterly bizarre stuff. You seem a bit unhinged. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayemphoto Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 On 27/11/2021 at 00:35, AlbionSaint said: That's a great wee blog post. Thanks. very kind - thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vimto90 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Kelty's average attendance so far this season is just under 800. If they progress up to League 1 it's likely that they will have less success, so lower attendances would be expected as a result. Currently there are several sides in League 1 whose average attendances are in the 600's, so if Kelty can attain this then it's possible that they could survive at League 1 without the extra money being put into the club at the moment. It's no secret that no club survives only on gate money, so a lot will depend on income raised through sources other than the money coming through the gate, and Kelty do have a very active and dedicated committee, so I would be confident that club won't become another "Gretna".In fairness the only reason Gretna were mentioned was an example of how winning the title would possibly feel fairly hollow due to the financial disparity and rightly wouldn't feel organic. Kelty are no where near what Gretna were but are still paying wages to players who wouldn't be there otherwise. If the model was to bankroll to L1 and then see what happens then it looks like it will be a successful one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Forbes Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 47 minutes ago, Vimto90 said: In fairness the only reason Gretna were mentioned was an example of how winning the title would possibly feel fairly hollow due to the financial disparity and rightly wouldn't feel organic. Kelty are no where near what Gretna were but are still paying wages to players who wouldn't be there otherwise. If the model was to bankroll to L1 and then see what happens then it looks like it will be a successful one. At the time Kelty joined the Seniors they said on several occasions that they wanted to leave the Juniors mainly because of the glass ceiling that existed at that level, and to see where joining the Seniors would take them. I don't know what level, if any, they were aiming for, I only mentioned League 1 as I thought that it was a realistic level to reach given the size of the club. It may be that Kelty just wanted to be an SPFL club, but I don't know that for sure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leomessi1984 Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 From the highlights it certainly looks like Montrose should have won. Clear chances for Kelty but a few that, if not for Jamieson, the away side should have put away. Johnstone looked dangerous against his home town club. I'll be at the reply so hopefully a wee away win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelheart Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 St Johnstone awaits the winners chance of a good crowd for both Kelty and Montrose, all to play for 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonksy+HisChristianParade Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 On 29/11/2021 at 23:09, Kelheart said: St Johnstone awaits the winners chance of a good crowd for both Kelty and Montrose, all to play for How many tickets do you think we’ll get out of interest? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leomessi1984 Posted December 4, 2021 Author Share Posted December 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, Bonksy+HisChristianParade said: How many tickets do you think we’ll get out of interest? Could see a good 500+ at least. Someone else might have a better idea. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leomessi1984 Posted December 4, 2021 Author Share Posted December 4, 2021 Great win today in a game that could have went either way. Proper cup tie, end to end at times, in classic Scottish weather. Dougie Hill & Hoops were immense in the absence of our first choices Forster & O'Ware at centre half. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonksy+HisChristianParade Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 14 minutes ago, leomessi1984 said: Could see a good 500+ at least. Someone else might have a better idea. Will definitely be a sell out on our end then. Hopefully we can spring a cup upset against you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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