Bring Your Own Socks Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, NavyBlueArmy1876 said: In-situ concrete will almost always be cheaper than pre-cast for the reasons listed above. But for something fairly straightforward like a small football stand it really doesn't make much difference tbh. Pouring in spring/ summer/ autumn will obviously be better than at this time of year given the cold weather which usually causes some sort of delay to programme but that can't really be controlled I suppose Given the existing banking already in place steel columns would also be an unnecessary (and large) expense Glad we’re offering light relief for a Falkirk fan. So what are the rafters/purlins supported by? The roof has to sit on something. Programme is already delayed, hence why precast would be much better. That’s also how you control cold weather. Precast is 20% cheaper. I guess we work in different sectors/ regions if it’s not for you. But I guess they’re just following the design as drawn, by an architect no longer employed. Edited December 12, 2021 by Bring Your Own Socks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Your Own Socks Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 45 minutes ago, Hampden Diehard said: I know the Committee gets stick, but let me assure you that the job of the President has been sapping in recent years and almost impossible to do if you have a full time job; I’m sure it has been HD. But the QP family is a broad church. As you well know there is a mechanism to invite members to help if they so desire. They chose not to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyBlueArmy1876 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 12 hours ago, Bring Your Own Socks said: Glad we’re offering light relief for a Falkirk fan. So what are the rafters/purlins supported by? The roof has to sit on something. Programme is already delayed, hence why precast would be much better. That’s also how you control cold weather. Precast is 20% cheaper. I guess we work in different sectors/ regions if it’s not for you. But I guess they’re just following the design as drawn, by an architect no longer employed. Pretty much anything is preferable to talking about our current team tbh Looks like the rafters are cantilevered so supported by the pair of steel columns on gridlines EA and EB. They rest of what I assume is a 50/70mm structural topping screed on a 200/250mm concrete slab with concrete footings. It's not shown on this drawing (would usually only be for warrant/ construction drawings) but I'd assume there is some sort of DPM below the slab with sand blinding and type 1. I'm not a quantity surveyor or a contractor so wouldn't know the exact costs, but I'd wager insitu would be the cheapest option here. As you say there is the programme advantage to pre-cast so pros and cons to both methods. I do like the design of the stands and the addition behind the goal by moving the pitch and the facade to Leatherby Drive are improvements on the previous proposals. If I did have to be critical about anything (other than on the demolition of the farmhouse that I've already covered) I'd say a wheelchair user isn't going to have much of a view if the person in front of them is standing. You really need to have a 3-4 row clearance like the recent additions at Hampden and St Mirren for unobstructed sightlines, but I suppose it's better than nothing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletar Spider Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 On 12/12/2021 at 13:10, Bring Your Own Socks said: I see the club have proudly put a post up on the East Stand development. I’ll not bother you with the science of concrete, simply this. Modern stadia design with offsite prefabrication guaranteeing quality control, uniform compressive strengths, no air pockets, no risk of damage from frost, structurally sound including wind and snow loadings. Built on steel structure with integrated columns designed to carry and support the roof system. The Queen’s Park method. Perhaps a nostalgic throwback to 1903. In case anyone’s wondering, the modern version is cheaper and quicker to build. We're also lacking the buff, shirtless builders. Although from what I can see in that picture from Lesser, that's probably for the best. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Your Own Socks Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) AGM now a Zoom meeting. Dempster present. Questions by writing in advance, Friday latest. Edited December 15, 2021 by Bring Your Own Socks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris the Spider Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 AGM now a Zoom meeting. Dempster present. Questions by writing in advance, Friday latest.Reports that the committee were cheering when they heard Nicola’s new guidelines have been denied. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTQP1867 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 given that WH is calling all the shots, does that render the current President, Committee & Membership structure moot? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Are Red Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Now Wednesday 29th December, 7.45pm for that cancelled Airdrie v QP fixture. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qpsnapper Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) A couple of pictures from Lesser this afternoon as the farmhouse is razed to the ground: Edited December 17, 2021 by qpsnapper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyBlueArmy1876 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 1 hour ago, qpsnapper said: A couple of pictures from Lesser this afternoon as the farmhouse is razed to the ground: Demolishing a building from the 1830's before you've got Planning Permission to do so is pretty risky, listing or not 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 31 minutes ago, NavyBlueArmy1876 said: Demolishing a building from the 1830's before you've got Planning Permission to do so is pretty risky, listing or not My reaction was: "Wow! That was quick!" I'm assuming Queens Park must have had the nod from the council for them to have done this, otherwise it is risky. On the other hand what's the worst penalty that could have been imposed? Sometimes it's better to apologise for something you've done than to ask permission to do it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Your Own Socks Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 46 minutes ago, NavyBlueArmy1876 said: Demolishing a building from the 1830's before you've got Planning Permission to do so is pretty risky, listing or not Let’s just hope someone at the club has sway over the Council Planning office. Building 11,000 homes ought to do it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT1867 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 3 hours ago, NavyBlueArmy1876 said: Demolishing a building from the 1830's before you've got Planning Permission to do so is pretty risky, listing or not I'm not familiar with the planning permission process but do you need that for demolishing a non-listed building? Is the planning application not for the building of the replacement structure rather than the demolition of the existing building? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 28 minutes ago, JT1867 said: I'm not familiar with the planning permission process but do you need that for demolishing a non-listed building? Is the planning application not for the building of the replacement structure rather than the demolition of the existing building? Wait, what? I thought the building was listed? If it wasn't, then absolutely it can be demolished. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT1867 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, AlbionSaint said: Wait, what? I thought the building was listed? If it wasn't, then absolutely it can be demolished. Glasgow City Council website doesn't show it as listed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 It feels like the demolition of the farmhouse is receiving more media outrage than when the SFA threatened your existence to get Hampden on the cheap 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 What will be the total capacity if planning permission is approved? I'm guessing around 2,300? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Your Own Socks Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Remember when we were told that the Committee’s (“with a small c for conservatism”) said that we should aspire to the Arbroath model to encourage the switch from amateur to professional? But the clamour for being full-time only came after the vote. Literally when the Deed was done. So what is it that Arbroath have that we don’t? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Bring Your Own Socks said: Remember when we were told that the Committee’s (“with a small c for conservatism”) said that we should aspire to the Arbroath model to encourage the switch from amateur to professional? But the clamour for being full-time only came after the vote. Literally when the Deed was done. So what is it that Arbroath have that we don’t? Despite being absolutely delighted for Arbroath, I still very much doubt they will get promoted. There's a long way to go and I suspect fitness might play a crucial factor in that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Your Own Socks Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, AlbionSaint said: Despite being absolutely delighted for Arbroath, I still very much doubt they will get promoted. There's a long way to go and I suspect fitness might play a crucial factor in that. I’m pretty certain they won’t get promoted. I’m 100% certain they won’t be in the Lowland league. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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