HibeeJibee Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 South Challenge Cup entry swells to an enormous 161 clubs. Go back 4yrs and this cup had 43 entrants. There are 33 ties & 95 byes in R1 - then 'Last 128' in R2. However due to the national emergency the opening 2 rounds are regionalised into 4 zones. East clubs from Fife, Perthshire, Clackmannanshire and Falkirk - plus Linlithgow - find themself placed into North-East Zone alongside clubs in North Lanarkshire. All the others from across the Lothians, Borders and Northumberland find themself in South-East Zone. In effect the South-West Zone amounts to South Lanarkshire, East + South Ayrshire plus Dumfries & Galloway; the North-West Zone amounts to the rest of Strathclyde. North-East clubs could meet the likes of Bo'ness Utd, East Stirlingshire, Cumbernauld Utd and Kirkintilloch Rob Roy... South-East clubs could meet the likes of Civil Service, Spartans, Bonnyrigg, Gala and Berwick. There could also be plenty derbies thrown-up. I'd particularly like to see a Bo'ness derby, a Berwick derby or a Cumbernauld derby. Draw is Friday at 7pm. Most teams will get a bye in R1. Win in R2 and they're into all-in R3 - the 'Last 64' - where opponents from the Glasgow area, Ayrshire, Dumfries & Galloway and even Campbeltown in Argyll could await. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HibeeJibee Posted May 29, 2021 Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 Making their debuts in the flagship competition will be: Armadale Thistle, Bathgate Thistle, Bo'ness Athletic, Edinburgh College, Fauldhouse United, Livingston United, Pumpherston, Stoneyburn, Syngenta, West Calder United and Whitburn who have joined East of Scotland League Broomhill Sports, Campbeltown Pupils, Finnart, Glenvale, Harmony Row, Harthill Royal, Kilsyth Athletic, St Peters and Westerton United who have joined the West of Scotland League Ardrossan Winton Rovers, Arthurlie, Auchinleck Talbot, Benburb, Cambuslang Rangers, Cumnock, Dalry Thistle, Glasgow United (formerly Shettleston), Glenafton Athletic, Lesmahagow, Kilbirnie Ladeside, Petershill, Pollok, Royal Albert, Saltcoats Victoria, Shotts Bon Accord and Whitletts Victoria from the West of Scotland League who scratched last season due to mothballing Lanark United and Lugar Boswell Thistle from the West of Scotland League who scratched last season under amnesty Lochore Welfare and Luncarty from the East of Scotland League who didn't play a tie in the last edition before it was abandoned Ashfield, Glasgow Perthshire, Kirkintilloch Rob Roy, Neilston, Newmains United, Port Glasgow,Thorniewood United and Wishaw from the West of Scotland League who didn't play a tie in the last edition before it was abandoned 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 I suppose it makes financial sense to have the South Cup early rounds regional but you miss the randomness of the Scottish Junior Cup- for example while the treasurer groaned Dunbar fans over the years "enjoyed" trips to Craigmark, Lugar, Saltcoats, Stonehaven, Culter, Ardrossan, Ardeer and Burghead to play RAF Lossiemouth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, tamthebam said: I suppose it makes financial sense to have the South Cup early rounds regional but you miss the randomness of the Scottish Junior Cup- for example while the treasurer groaned Dunbar fans over the years "enjoyed" trips to Craigmark, Lugar, Saltcoats, Stonehaven, Culter, Ardrossan, Ardeer and Burghead to play RAF Lossiemouth. It does seem to just be a one season solution. Let's face it they tried to play an all-in competition BCDs last season. It's not like they're feart of a bit of travel. Edited May 29, 2021 by FairWeatherFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 They've set up quite a decent Twitter account for the cup. https://twitter.com/SouthChallenge 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghBlue Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Would it not be sensible for the mods to combine the separate threads into a single one in the cups section? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted May 30, 2021 Author Share Posted May 30, 2021 19 minutes ago, EdinburghBlue said: Would it not be sensible for the mods to combine the separate threads into a single one in the cups section? That was tried a few years ago (granted before West came on scene) but hardly anyone posted in it. You get threads in each sub-forum about the Scottish Cup, plus even the League and Tunnocks cups, so this isn't much different? Particularly given R1 + R2 are regionalised this season (e.g. East clubs only feature in NE + SE... South clubs only in SW...). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 I wonder if the Bo'ness derby will get drawn out. Be like AFC wimbledon vs MK DONs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 4, 2021 Author Share Posted June 4, 2021 Tasty. Needle! Omitting cities and short-term groundshares by my reckoning can get derbies in Berwick, Bo'ness, Perth, Cumbernauld, Clydebank, East Kilbride, Paisley, Irvine or Dumfries. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 44 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: Tasty. Needle! Omitting cities and short-term groundshares by my reckoning can get derbies in Berwick, Bo'ness, Perth, Cumbernauld, Clydebank, East Kilbride, Paisley, Irvine or Dumfries. Kilsyth have a "derby" now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 4, 2021 Author Share Posted June 4, 2021 Biggest senior cup draw since 1893-94... only took 90mins... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: Biggest senior cup draw since 1893-94... only took 90mins... Do you know how many more clubs are needed next season to become the biggest senior draw in Scottish football history? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 4, 2021 Author Share Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Ginaro said: Do you know how many more clubs are needed next season to become the biggest senior draw in Scottish football history? 13 = 174 EDIT: With an entry of 161 clubs tonight was 6th biggest in history... surpassed only by Scottish Cup R1 in 1890-91 (173 clubs); Scottish Cup Preliminary R1 in 1891-92 (167 clubs); Scottish Cup R1 in 1888-89 (164 clubs); Scottish Cup Prelimininary R1 in 1892-93 and 1893-94 (162 clubs). So not very far to go and could be biggest ever. In reality tonight probably was by far the biggest ever if you consider R1 + R2 were drawn together - 97 ties is like 194 clubs - which I doubt they did in Victorian times. Edited June 4, 2021 by HibeeJibee 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 4, 2021 Author Share Posted June 4, 2021 Ties of the round (IMO) involving EOSL clubs: First Round East Stirlingshire v Linlithgow Rose Hill of Beath Hawthorn v Sauchie Camelon v Kirkintilloch Rob Roy Edinburgh University v Heriot-Watt University Musselburgh Athletic v Tynecastle Second Round East Stirlingshire/Linlithgow v Camelon/Kirkintilloch Jeanfield Swifts v BSC Glasgow Lothian Thistle HV v Civil Service Strollers Mighty Berwick Rangers v Broxburn Athletic Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic v Arniston Rangers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Ties of the round (IMO) involving EOSL clubs: First Round East Stirlingshire v Linlithgow Rose Hill of Beath Hawthorn v Sauchie Camelon v Kirkintilloch Rob Roy Edinburgh University v Heriot-Watt University Musselburgh Athletic v Tynecastle Second Round East Stirlingshire/Linlithgow v Camelon/Kirkintilloch Jeanfield Swifts v BSC Glasgow Lothian Thistle HV v Civil Service Strollers Mighty Berwick Rangers v Broxburn Athletic Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic v Arniston RangersClearly never been to a Blackburn Utd v Stoneyburn Juniors Derby [emoji23] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumphyman Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Burnieman said: Clearly never been to a Blackburn Utd v Stoneyburn Juniors Derby Total bloodbath of a derby match 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 22 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: Tasty. Needle! Omitting cities and short-term groundshares by my reckoning can get derbies in Berwick, Bo'ness, Perth, Cumbernauld, Clydebank, East Kilbride, Paisley, Irvine or Dumfries. Think Easthouses probably counts as part of Dalkeith? Pumpherston and Livingston might be another given the way the new town swallowed up the former. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 1 hour ago, LongTimeLurker said: Think Easthouses probably counts as part of Dalkeith? Easthouses just as close to Nitten Star or Arniston as they are to Dalkeith. Could be quite a few "Midlothian" derbies over the season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blowin In the Wind Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Some tasty ties and think these will increase as the rounds go on. Excited for the new season to start. Hopefully there will be little disruption to it or at least it is manageable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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