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The robbery of Callum Davidson of manager of the year by Steven Gerrard

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Outstanding achievement tbf and deserves recognition

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Callum Davidson, outstanding achievement, good to see. 

Definiltey should have won it over Gerrard..

Edited by Stormzy

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Davidson is 100% the manager of the year. What he's achieved with a team the size of St Johnstone won't be matched in our lifetime again. It's a complete joke Gerrard got it over him.

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15 minutes ago, Stormzy said:

Nonsense. 

Undefeated, defensive records set over the course of an entire campaign, carrying Scottish football on our back in Europe. 

Taking nothing away from Callum Davidson, outstanding achievement and it's good to see. 

St Johnstone 2 titles, Rangers 1. Simples. Also the fact they’ve probs got a bottom 6 budget the achievement is on of the biggest in Scottish history never mind today. 

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Callum Davidson is clearly the manager of the year and we can all see that.

Surely the timing of the awards needs to be reviewed immediately and changed from next season.

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1 minute ago, Ill Ray said:

St Johnstone 2 titles, Rangers 1. Simples. Also the fact they’ve probs got a bottom 6 budget the achievement is on of the biggest in Scottish history never mind today. 

Cup wins aren't as good as titles though. 

Aye the achievement is good relativley speaking but Rangers have performed better over the course of a season, including topping our group in Europe. If Rangers had snuck the league by a game or two it would've probably went to Davidson. 

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He was robbed, but Gerrard didn’t vote for himself (I presume) 

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This could be even better than Rics Sevco only win cause they cheat thread?

 

It needs that ccb.... Aberdeen fan to kick it off...

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Gerrard deserved to win. No doubt. Under massive pressure. Won the league out the park. 

Excellent season for Davidson. Wouldn't bet against him winning it in future.

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Winning a league you're expected to challenge for, outspending just about everyone in the process. Doing it unbeaten is a good achievement.

Winning two major trophies you're not expected to get close to, with a budget much less than what, 7 teams or so?

 

Davidson should have won it, but shouldn't surprise anyone that Gerrard got it.

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Why do they award if before the end of the season? Unless it’s only voted on league performance? 

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St Johnstone were probably 20-1 for each cup so a double is around 40-1, Rangers were just above evens for the league.

£1 on St Johnstone gets you £400 back, £1 on Rangers gets you £2.20. One is a monumental achievement the other one is routine and expected.

If Rangers got to the Europa League final to play Man Utd the Rangers fans would say it was a bigger achievement by their manager but they are not objective enough to see it when it is the other way round.

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15 minutes ago, Stormzy said:

Cup wins aren't as good as titles though. 

Aye the achievement is good relativley speaking but Rangers have performed better over the course of a season, including topping our group in Europe. If Rangers had snuck the league by a game or two it would've probably went to Davidson. 

Are they not? Then why haven’t you won any in over 10 years? Rangers are expected to challenge on all fronts and operating on a higher budget than St Johnstone even when in the bottom tier.

St Johnstone to win a cup double in a single season is easily up there and tbh probably surpasses what Rangers have done imo

You are looking at this through a very very biased lens

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20 minutes ago, Grangemouth Bairn said:

Callum Davidson is clearly the manager of the year and we can all see that.

Surely the timing of the awards needs to be reviewed immediately and changed from next season.

Pretty sure the awards are organised early as the players have little interest in attending an event after the end of the season.

That's not to say they couldn't have done that this season though.

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10 minutes ago, ahemps said:

St Johnstone were probably 20-1 for each cup so a double is around 40-1, Rangers were just above evens for the league.

£1 on St Johnstone gets you £400 back, £1 on Rangers gets you £2.20. One is a monumental achievement the other one is routine and expected.

If Rangers got to the Europa League final to play Man Utd the Rangers fans would say it was a bigger achievement by their manager but they are not objective enough to see it when it is the other way round.

That's not the way odds work. 

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15 minutes ago, TheScarf said:

Why do they award if before the end of the season? Unless it’s only voted on league performance? 

Historically it was because they had an awards night bash. If it was at the end of the season everybody would be off on holiday

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17 minutes ago, Big Fifer said:

That's not the way odds work. 

Isn't it? Assuming St Johnstone were 20/1 for both cups, a £1 double at the start of the season would have got you £400 (£20 from the first cup then means you've got £20 on again at 20/1 = £400).*

And getting £2.20 back from £1 on Rangers winning the league would suggest they were 6/5. Which is "just above evens".

 

*Actually a bit off, obviously get the stake back so you end up with £440.

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