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The robbery of Callum Davidson of manager of the year by Steven Gerrard


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2 minutes ago, Stormzy said:

Not too sure tbh. I read earlier that the Aberdeen manager never won it when they last did the double. 

A  recent past winner is Steve Clarke.

And Delboy McInnes.

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2 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said:

A  recent past winner is Steve Clarke.

And Delboy McInnes.

Is that the SFWA awards? If anyone has a problem with them then they're literally just columnists opinions, can't say it means too much. 

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Congrats finally to Mr Steven George Gerrard MBE, ONE trophy from the NINE available to you et al, even with your outlandish and freakish financial Scottish footballing budget over the past 3 seasons and counting, lol.

James McPake is actually on target to achieve more when you compare % budgets and without the Covid related fan and club incidents thankfully for us adults.

Congratulations to Callum Davidson as Scottish Manager of the Season 2020/21.

Regards 

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43 minutes ago, Stormzy said:

Even if Rangers didn't go unbeaten we clearly had the best league performance which this award was based on. 

During the 9iar run only 1 Celtic manager won the award and that was Brendan Rodgers for the invincible season, the one where we actually went invincible.

The last league winning winner before Rodgers was Walter Smith 

So the league winning manager rarely wins this award.

Davidson clearly deserved it

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Callum deserves it but the flaw is in the timing of the vote, as has been mentioned plenty of times.  It doesn't really matter that much.

But If we're looking for context, Saints winning both cups in this day and age is arguably the greatest achievement in the history of Scottish football. More remarkable even than Celtic winning the European cup.  I'd say that even if it was Motherwell, Ross County or Dunfermline that did it (win the domestic cups, not the European Cup).   

If a Scottish team were to win a major European trophy in the modern era with the current gulf in resources then that would surpass it.

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Callum deserves it but the flaw is in the timing of the vote, as has been mentioned plenty of times.  It doesn't really matter that much.
But If we're looking for context, Saints winning both cups in this day and age is arguably the greatest achievement in the history of Scottish football. More remarkable even than Celtic winning the European cup.  I'd say that even if it was Motherwell, Ross County or Dunfermline that did it (win the domestic cups, not the European Cup).   
If a Scottish team were to win a major European trophy in the modern era with the current gulf in resources then that would surpass it.

Jesus, really? Winning any European trophy, irrespective of era is way above winning a domestic cup double.
St Johnstone only had to beat one cheek to get the double not continually beat the elite from other countries game after game to win a cup.
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17 minutes ago, PauloPerth said:

Callum deserves it but the flaw is in the timing of the vote, as has been mentioned plenty of times.  It doesn't really matter that much.

But If we're looking for context, Saints winning both cups in this day and age is arguably the greatest achievement in the history of Scottish football. More remarkable even than Celtic winning the European cup.  I'd say that even if it was Motherwell, Ross County or Dunfermline that did it (win the domestic cups, not the European Cup).   

If a Scottish team were to win a major European trophy in the modern era with the current gulf in resources then that would surpass it.

The timing might be an issue but the bigger issue is the morons who vote for it.

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In two minds. When it was awarded, Gerrard had just cantered to the title with Rangers. 

Davidson had won one cup. 

After today though? No doubt its Davidson. Especially so when it's remembered some Perth posters were wanting him chased early doors. Phenomenal turnaround. 

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4 minutes ago, Loonytoons said:


Jesus, really? Winning any European trophy, irrespective of era is way above winning a domestic cup double.
St Johnstone only had to beat one cheek to get the double not continually beat the elite from other countries game after game to win a cup.

In terms of profile and significance obviously a European trophy is a far bigger deal.  In terms of the over-achievement and scale of the feat taking resources into account, Saints' double far surpasses it. 

Hibs had been in a European Cup semi a decade earlier, and Dundee 5 years earlier, so it wasn't that unreachable for a Scottish team.  Go have a look at the 4 diddies they had to play to get to the final.  You can see parallels in our Betfred Cup group of Brechin City, Kelly, Peterhead and Dundee United.

Celtic were a team full of internationals playing other teams with similar resources.  A great achievement, but not an unimaginable one. They even got to the final again 3 years later.

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In two minds. When it was awarded, Gerrard had just cantered to the title with Rangers. 
Davidson had won one cup. 
After today though? No doubt its Davidson. Especially so when it's remembered some Perth posters were wanting him chased early doors. Phenomenal turnaround. 
Did he not lose something like 7 of his first 9 games tbf.
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What Callum Davidson has achieved in his first year as a manager will go down in history as one of (if not the) greatest achievements in the history of Scottish football. Fucking End Of...... 

Anyone who reckons anyone else deserves the MOTY supports Rangers.

Stevie G should  do the decent thing and fire that award over to MacDermid Park Recorded Delivery, and I hope that every ‘sports writer’ who awarded this pish to SG feels at least a bit embarrassed tonight.

Enjoy the next few weeks of minimal sobriety Fermers, fucking well deserved.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Stormzy said:

Is that the SFWA awards? If anyone has a problem with them then they're literally just columnists opinions, can't say it means too much. 

Nope. Yogi Hughes won both awards in the 2014/15 season.

ETA - I thought European competitions didn’t have any relevance in these awards? Could be wrong on that though. 

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16 hours ago, Ill Ray said:

St Johnstone 2 titles, Rangers 1. Simples. Also the fact they’ve probs got a bottom 6 budget the achievement is on of the biggest in Scottish history never mind today. 

To be fair, Gerrard has won 100% of Rangers’ major honours but Davidson only 67% of St Johnstone’s 😉

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I think Gerrard should be stripped of this award immediately. The people in charge of this should be going round his house this morning to take the award back. If Gerrard has any sense or dignity, he’ll give it back quietly.

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