Gordon EF Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 (edited) Last night, Lowland League clubs gave an indicative vote in favour of admitting old firm colt sides into the Lowland League for season 2021/22. 11 clubs voted for and 5 voted against. Assuming no clubs change their minds, this will pass at the Lowland League AGM next week. There are plenty of threads on here discussing the merits or otherwise of colt sides in the Scottish football pyramid and this isn't a thread for this. I'm trying to encourage all Scottish football fans from every club and every level of the pyramid who is against colt sides to commit to supporting those Lowland League clubs who vote against the colt proposal next week by attending at least one of their home games next season or buying a ticket via the donate a ticket website. The idea is to choose one home fixture for each club who votes against the colts and ideally, give them a sell out crowd (assuming we're allowed back into games by next season) and for those who can't make the game for whatever reason but still want to show their support, to donate online. If this is a goer, I'll select fixtures where the Lowland League 'good guys' play against each other, once the fixtures are announced, and one home game will be chosen for each club. It'd be great to get out and show our moral and financial support for those clubs willing to stand up for the integrity of Scottish football and aren't willing to sell out their league for £3k. At around £8 per ticket, just 375 extra fans through the gate would be more than the OF are willing to pay each LL club to use their league as practice. I've started a petition here: https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/notocoltsides It'd be great if everyone willing to do this could sign it. It's a way to gauge numbers and communicate with folk who're interested. Hopefully, if it takes off, a few Lowland League clubs who indicated they'll vote for this might reconsider (I doubt it but you never know). The good guys are: Bonnyrigg Rose, Bo'ness United, Civil Service Strollers, Dalbeattie Star, and Edinburgh University. Edited May 11, 2021 by Gordon EF 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Ironside8 said: What a state to get in. Away and lay in a dark room ffs Who's in a state? You've been bumbling around the forum like a kid looking for attention all day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanner Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 the sentiment is admirable but I wouldn't donate to it. it's basically asking fans to bribe clubs into retaining the status quo when of course their sense of integrity should be enough. Also, they are going to be getting a share of the Old Firm sweetener payment regardless of how they vote. Going forward perhaps fans of the "good guy" teams might consider whether they want to visit the "wanks" and put money in their coffers in future. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ilford Drummer Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Ffs grow up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 31 minutes ago, The Ilford Drummer said: Ffs grow up. Great input. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 37 minutes ago, The Ilford Drummer said: Ffs grow up. They're not going to shag you m8 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Shanner said: the sentiment is admirable but I wouldn't donate to it. it's basically asking fans to bribe clubs into retaining the status quo when of course their sense of integrity should be enough. Also, they are going to be getting a share of the Old Firm sweetener payment regardless of how they vote. Going forward perhaps fans of the "good guy" teams might consider whether they want to visit the "wanks" and put money in their coffers in future. I might be tempted to pop along to see a game with one of the ‘good guy’ teams and buy a ticket if we had a free week. Might be a decent wee day out, never been to Bonnyrigg and heard its a decent wee ground etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanner Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 15 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: I might be tempted to pop along to see a game with one of the ‘good guy’ teams and buy a ticket if we had a free week. Might be a decent wee day out, never been to Bonnyrigg and heard its a decent wee ground etc. Bonnyrigg is good (presuming they haven't done anything too rash to the place in the 10 years since I was there) . It's definitely in the "traditional" category of venues. it had the most severe cross-field slope i've ever seen - might be a perfectly flat astro now for all I know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Won't be me am afraid. Not a lover of the old firm in any shape or form but we live in a democracy and if that's what the clubs want and voted for then good luck to them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Stuart. Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Gordon EF said: Last night, Lowland League clubs gave an indicative vote in favour of admitting old firm colt sides into the Lowland League for season 2021/22. 11 clubs voted for and 5 voted against. Assuming no clubs change their minds, this will pass at the Lowland League AGM next week. There are plenty of threads on here discussing the merits or otherwise of colt sides in the Scottish football pyramid and this isn't a thread for this. I'm trying to encourage all Scottish football fans from every club and every level of the pyramid who is against colt sides to commit to supporting those Lowland League clubs who vote against the colt proposal next week by attending at least one of their home games next season or buying a ticket via the donate a ticket website. The idea is to choose one home fixture for each club who votes against the colts and ideally, give them a sell out crowd (assuming we're allowed back into games by next season) and for those who can't make the game for whatever reason but still want to show their support, to donate online. If this is a goer, I'll select fixtures where the Lowland League 'good guys' play against each other, once the fixtures are announced, and one home game will be chosen for each club. It'd be great to get out and show our moral and financial support for those clubs willing to stand up for the integrity of Scottish football and aren't willing to sell out their league for £3k. At around £8 per ticket, just 375 extra fans through the gate would be more than the OF are willing to pay each LL club to use their league as practice. I've started a petition here: https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/notocoltsides It'd be great if everyone willing to do this could sign it. It's a way to gauge numbers and communicate with folk who're interested. Hopefully, if it takes off, a few Lowland League clubs who indicated they'll vote for this might reconsider (I doubt it but you never know). The good guys are: Bonnyrigg Rose, Bo'ness United, Civil Service Strollers, Dalbeattie Star, and Edinburgh University. I, like most other fans would much rather just donate the cost of a ticket to the clubs they support. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, .Stuart. said: I, like most other fans would much rather just donate the cost of a ticket to the clubs they support. Good to know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amandajoan Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 2 hours ago, santheman said: Won't be me am afraid. Not a lover of the old firm in any shape or form but we live in a democracy and if that's what the clubs want and voted for then good luck to them. Yes the Clubs voted for it. If it came down to the Clubs fans I think most would say nay. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8MileBU Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Shanner said: Bonnyrigg is good (presuming they haven't done anything too rash to the place in the 10 years since I was there) . It's definitely in the "traditional" category of venues. it had the most severe cross-field slope i've ever seen - might be a perfectly flat astro now for all I know. The slope is still alive and well! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 6 hours ago, Gordon EF said: Last night, Lowland League clubs gave an indicative vote in favour of admitting old firm colt sides into the Lowland League for season 2021/22. 11 clubs voted for and 5 voted against. Assuming no clubs change their minds, this will pass at the Lowland League AGM next week. There are plenty of threads on here discussing the merits or otherwise of colt sides in the Scottish football pyramid and this isn't a thread for this. I'm trying to encourage all Scottish football fans from every club and every level of the pyramid who is against colt sides to commit to supporting those Lowland League clubs who vote against the colt proposal next week by attending at least one of their home games next season or buying a ticket via the donate a ticket website. The idea is to choose one home fixture for each club who votes against the colts and ideally, give them a sell out crowd (assuming we're allowed back into games by next season) and for those who can't make the game for whatever reason but still want to show their support, to donate online. If this is a goer, I'll select fixtures where the Lowland League 'good guys' play against each other, once the fixtures are announced, and one home game will be chosen for each club. It'd be great to get out and show our moral and financial support for those clubs willing to stand up for the integrity of Scottish football and aren't willing to sell out their league for £3k. At around £8 per ticket, just 375 extra fans through the gate would be more than the OF are willing to pay each LL club to use their league as practice. I've started a petition here: https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/notocoltsides It'd be great if everyone willing to do this could sign it. It's a way to gauge numbers and communicate with folk who're interested. Hopefully, if it takes off, a few Lowland League clubs who indicated they'll vote for this might reconsider (I doubt it but you never know). The good guys are: Bonnyrigg Rose, Bo'ness United, Civil Service Strollers, Dalbeattie Star, and Edinburgh University. You do know Gordon you are in the WoSFL forum. This is the clubs below the LL. You know the same LL that has one relegation place and 160 clubs below that. Why anybody would support the LL from this end is beyond me. Be gone, you Seaside Leaguer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Amandajoan said: Yes the Clubs voted for it. If it came down to the Clubs fans I think most would say nay. Do they have fans? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted May 12, 2021 Author Share Posted May 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, Tutankhamen said: You do know Gordon you are in the WoSFL forum. This is the clubs below the LL. You know the same LL that has one relegation place and 160 clubs below that. Why anybody would support the LL from this end is beyond me. Be gone, you Seaside Leaguer. You're free to your opinion. I'm not trying to convince anyone or twist any arms. It's not really about supporting the Lowland League though. It's about supporting clubs who're trying to do the right thing. Personally, I don't think the best response to self-interest is even more self-interest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Gordon EF said: You're free to your opinion. I'm not trying to convince anyone or twist any arms. It's not really about supporting the Lowland League though. It's about supporting clubs who're trying to do the right thing. Personally, I don't think the best response to self-interest is even more self-interest. And you think East Fife and a whole host of others haven't self interest in this Colts story. Don't even go there with the sporting integrity line. East Fife have been in closed shop since the first day they joined the league. Now the penny has dropped. Two or three bad seasons and who would East Fife be playing and in what league? Remember there's something below the Lowland League. Ask Berwick Rangers, one bad season and they could be playing in the EoSFL 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted May 12, 2021 Author Share Posted May 12, 2021 5 hours ago, Tutankhamen said: And you think East Fife and a whole host of others haven't self interest in this Colts story. Don't even go there with the sporting integrity line. East Fife have been in closed shop since the first day they joined the league. Now the penny has dropped. Two or three bad seasons and who would East Fife be playing and in what league? Remember there's something below the Lowland League. Ask Berwick Rangers, one bad season and they could be playing in the EoSFL You seem to be confusing me, a supporter of East Fife Football Club, with East Fife Football Club. I've never been in favour of the SPFL being a closed shop. What are you on about the penny dropping? I'm aware, and have been for some time, that there are now many tiers below East Fife's current position that they can drop into. I'm not sure who you support, is it Talbot? Do you think anything would be any different if Talbot (or any other WoSFL club for that matter), by some quirk of fate, had gotten into the Scottish Football League a century ago instead of East Fife? No, it wouldn't. They'd have taken their place in the closed shop and kept it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 13 hours ago, Amandajoan said: Yes the Clubs voted for it. If it came down to the Clubs fans I think most would say nay. Well if it bothers them that much they can always vote with their feet and wallets. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 5 hours ago, Gordon EF said: You seem to be confusing me, a supporter of East Fife Football Club, with East Fife Football Club. I've never been in favour of the SPFL being a closed shop. What are you on about the penny dropping? I'm aware, and have been for some time, that there are now many tiers below East Fife's current position that they can drop into. I'm not sure who you support, is it Talbot? Do you think anything would be any different if Talbot (or any other WoSFL club for that matter), by some quirk of fate, had gotten into the Scottish Football League a century ago instead of East Fife? No, it wouldn't. They'd have taken their place in the closed shop and kept it. Gordon rewind a minute. What exactly is the problem with Colts in the LL? -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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