Granny Danger Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 I’ve been looking for a post-election statement from Rennie. I’m interested in his excuses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Barns Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Did anyone on here even get a Lib Dem leaflet through the door during this election? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merkie84 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Surely they are terminal decline now? 11 MPs in the whole of the U.K. only 4 MSPs only 1 seat in the welsh parliament too. some of the numbers they were getting in some of the constituencies and even the regions were laughable. I don’t think this is a blip. Surely a fair few deposits lost which will hurt the coffers. The only people they seem to get elected are long standing incumbents with good local ratings. They couldn’t even get their leader elected at the last G.E. When those incumbents start to retire, they are done 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, Burning Barns said: Did anyone on here even get a Lib Dem leaflet through the door during this election? I got bumpf from the Tories, Labour, SNP, Greens, Reform UK, Family Party, Alba, and All for Unity. Not sure about the Libertarians, UKIP, and the Abolish Scotland Party, but I think I had something from at least one of them. Not a peep from Willie Rennie's jolly gang, which is a wee shame considering my vote was still up for grabs until the last minute. Spoiler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Merkie84 said: Surely they are terminal decline now? 11 MPs in the whole of the U.K. only 4 MSPs only 1 seat in the welsh parliament too. some of the numbers they were getting in some of the constituencies and even the regions were laughable. I don’t think this is a blip. Surely a fair few deposits lost which will hurt the coffers. The only people they seem to get elected are long standing incumbents with good local ratings. They couldn’t even get their leader elected at the last G.E. When those incumbents start to retire, they are done Is the BBC still going to treat them as though nothing’s changed when it comes to political programming and news reporting? It seems so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merkie84 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 I wonder if an election where they get 0 members elected , the BBC and Sky will still keep their graphic. Surely. not too many elections away from that scenario somewhere? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Merkie84 said: I wonder if an election where they get 0 members elected , the BBC and Sky will still keep their graphic. Surely. not too many elections away from that scenario somewhere? 2024 General Election results CONSERVATIVE PARTY: 376 seats LABOUR PARTY: 162 seats LIBERAL DEMOCRATS: 0 seats WHATEVER FARAGE IS DOING NOW PARTY: 24 seats Scottish National Party: 59 seats Democratic Unionist Party: 9 seats Sinn Fein: 8 seats Plaid Cymru: 6 seats Green Party: 4 seats Others: 3 seats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 They served as an opposition in areas where there was little industry and the poorer locals didn't want to vote with working class people in towns. That's why they are strongest in the Nice But Dim Southwest of England, the Fife outback and the northern isles. Charlie Kennedy managed to revive them a bit adding students students and non conformist types but the Greens have that now. They will limp along for as long as there are still country bumpkins. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, andrew21 said: Found this, in April-May 2010 Lib Dems were polling higher than SNP , what a fall. (Page 4 of pdf below) https://www.psa.ac.uk/sites/default/files/44_136.pdf Cleggmania. Worse than Covid but thankfully much shorter in duration. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Wonder how they'd be doing now if they'd told the Tories to GTF and stuck by their principles. Obviously that wasn't an option because rapaciousness but, considering what people have since voted for, the electorate would probably have blamed them for hindering the Tories' attempts to empty the public coffers into their friends and families' bank accounts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Barns Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 34 minutes ago, BFTD said: I got bumpf from the Tories, Labour, SNP, Greens, Reform UK, Family Party, Alba, and All for Unity. Not sure about the Libertarians, UKIP, and the Abolish Scotland Party, but I think I had something from at least one of them. Not a peep from Willie Rennie's jolly gang, which is a wee shame considering my vote was still up for grabs until the last minute. Reveal hidden contents These were the ones I got. I'm puzzled as to how the Lib Dems even got the votes they did receive. If it wasn't for TV coverage of Rennie, no-one would even know they existed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Burning Barns said: These were the ones I got. I'm puzzled as to how the Lib Dems even got the votes they did receive. If it wasn't for TV coverage of Rennie, no-one would even know they existed. They spend all their money in the few seats they have a chance of winning in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Detournement said: They spend all their money in the few seats they have a chance of winning in. Aye, this. I'm in Edinburgh West, and we got an absolute fucking ton of Lib Dem leaflets and pretend newspapers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 The Orkney and Shetland Party. Absolute minter for my seat of Embra West/Western at both Westminster and Holyrood, though the only reason they win here and in NE Fife is because the Tories aren't the viable challenger to the SNP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Wonder how they'd be doing now if they'd told the Tories to GTF and stuck by their principles. Obviously that wasn't an option because rapaciousness but, considering what people have since voted for, the electorate would probably have blamed them for hindering the Tories' attempts to empty the public coffers into their friends and families' bank accounts.I think Charlie wanted to explore a coalition with Labour as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 35 minutes ago, Detournement said: They spend all their money in the few seats they have a chance of winning in. 28 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said: Aye, this. I'm in Edinburgh West, and we got an absolute fucking ton of Lib Dem leaflets and pretend newspapers. Aye, Ditto in Argyll & Bute. Every single leaflet features Alan Reid crowing about his crowning achievement (the 5p per litre fuel subsidy for the islands) That dates from 2012. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, NotThePars said: I think Charlie wanted to explore a coalition with Labour as well. Aye, I remember Labour desperately trying to get their attention, like an old man running to catch a bus that's slowly pulling away from the stance, along with anyone else who could contribute a couple of seats here and there (except the SNP, of course).. That would really have killed them with an electorate moving to the right 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 17 hours ago, Gordon EF said: Serious question. Particularly in Scotland, what function do they serve, what is their purpose? The rest of "main" (inverted commas because the Busted Flushes are now technically a minor party) have some identifiable purpose, even if they don't particularly live up to that. The SNP are a fairly mainstream pro-independence party, the Tories are the right-of-centre uber-yoon option, Labour are a left-of-centre pro-union option, the Greens are primarily a more radical/progressive left option who are pro-independence. What the f**k are the Lib Dems? What exactly differentiates your average Lib Dem from your average Labour voter/member apart from geographical quirks? Labour and the Tories, whatever they might say are primarily pro-union parties (despite Labour goons clearly being mandated to mention 'helf'n'education' as much as humanly possible). Are the Lib Dems really still trying to be a third pro-union party who're slightly in between two other pro-union parties. Aside from that being strategically and electorally pointless, is it not just pointless on a deep fundamental level? I get that UK-wide there at least seemed to be a logically consistent space for them to occupy in the past as a more centrist party who could champion a few things like electoral reform that the big two would never touch. But in Scottish politics today, they've essentially just been boxed into a fundamentally pointless position on the political topography. Shouldn't they give serious consideration to their existence rather than whether they should replace a gormless simpleton with a narcissistic simpleton as leader? Maybe @Ad Lib could (strongly) advise you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 (edited) Ad Lib could've been their leader* by now. Thankfully, he seems to have got a proper job. Lucky escape. Edit: ...and Next Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, no doubt. Edited May 9, 2021 by BFTD 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 hour ago, BFTD said: Ad Lib could've been their leader* by now. Edit: ...and Next Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, no doubt. Well, what's left of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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