Sergeant Wilson Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, Arthur daley said: Don’t think John Haase was his cousin ,unless you aren’t talking about the Liverpool case ,think there a connection about a bribe allegedly,as at the time he made a comment about it wasn’t his fault that he has to vist his family on a Sunday or something bizzare like that . I may be mistaking as have been working all night but . Big delivery at the lock up? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeWhoWalksBehindTheRows Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: £450,000 seems an expensive way to get him banged up. Not sure now, but back 20 years ago or so they would nobble some c**t with an ounce of hash, and say it was something fucking daft like 20£ a gramme. 500£ + for something that would have went for nearer 80£. Can't imagine it's changed much since then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur daley Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 36 minutes ago, ICTChris said: I was sure it was a relative of Howard who was accused. I might be misremembering also. Edited to add - They weren't Howard's cousins but they were involved in drug dealing with a cousin of Howard. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/nov/09/uk.drugsandalcohol I had only knew about it at as was working down there a lot and everyone u met was a old friend /best mates ,second cousin twice removed of John and had to let u knew about it ,and was shocked I hadn’t heard of him 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur daley Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Big delivery at the lock up? The guys that deliver my stock are an asset to the British economy, all the nights they put in,I could get the same stock but delivered in daylight from a legit source but the price would be threw the roof . Edited November 23, 2021 by Arthur daley 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: £450,000 seems an expensive way to get him banged up. That's just the reporting being inflated. There is no way 26% pure cocaine is being shifted at £50k a kilo. You'd be lucky to shift it for half of that. 36 minutes ago, HeWhoWalksBehindTheRows said: Not sure now, but back 20 years ago or so they would nobble some c**t with an ounce of hash, and say it was something fucking daft like 20£ a gramme. 500£ + for something that would have went for nearer 80£. Can't imagine it's changed much since then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Don’t they tend to report these figures in street value, rather than what the dealer would get from those lower down the chain? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Firebombs apparently becoming 'de rigueur' in Strathaven these days: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-59524561 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-57545325 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-59494474 Meanwhile the assistant chief constable who heads Police Scotland's organised crime unit has been suspended following a "criminal allegation" (cue Stanley Baxter punchline): https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-59528384 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ICTChris Posted December 9, 2021 Author Share Posted December 9, 2021 (edited) Two men charged with the attempted murder of Dale Richardson, brother to currently imprisoned Mark, outside a Tesco in Gracemount. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/8125310/dode-baigrie-mark-richardson-edinburgh-attempted-murder/ Considering locking this thread tbh. From yesterday, a couple of local paper stories. https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/midlothian-man-linked-bradley-welsh-22396292 https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/locals-beg-scottish-council-evict-22398152 Edited December 9, 2021 by ICTChris 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 On 19/11/2021 at 11:15, ICTChris said: Mark Richardson's brother was stabbed a few days ago outside a Tesco in Gracemount. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/cops-hunt-witnesses-after-drug-25487601 They don't mess about there if you don't return the trolly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Jacksgranda said: They don't mess about there if you don't return the trolly. Quite. The Gracemount Tesco used to be a boozer called The Marmion where shotgun weilding psychos intent on blasting ex-boxers were always welcome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Florentine_Pogen said: Quite. The Gracemount Tesco used to be a boozer called The Marmion where shotgun weilding psychos intent on blasting ex-boxers were always welcome. Never stand next to one in the pub. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 11 hours ago, Florentine_Pogen said: Quite. The Gracemount Tesco used to be a boozer called The Marmion where shotgun weilding psychos intent on blasting ex-boxers were always welcome. There were two ex- Edinburgh City players in the Marmion on the night of the shooting. Both were f*cking loonies it has to be said.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Baigrie charged with attempted murder of Richardson's brother. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/8131295/george-baigrie-court-edinburgh-attempted-murder-mark-richardson/?rec_article=true 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladdin Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Meanwhile, in the west... https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/scots-jail-erupts-violence-hours-25660149?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 56 minutes ago, Aladdin said: Meanwhile, in the west... https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/scots-jail-erupts-violence-hours-25660149?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar I wouldn’t claim to know much about running a prison but it seems like quite a funky approach to house warring gang members together. Surely that’s just making extra stress for guards, the courts, hospitals and so on? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 35 minutes ago, Shandon Par said: I wouldn’t claim to know much about running a prison but it seems like quite a funky approach to house warring gang members together. Surely that’s just making extra stress for guards, the courts, hospitals and so on? I doubt there is the capacity in the Scottish Prison service to segregate people like that. Prisons are pretty much full to capacity, in some cases they are above capacity. There are probably dozens of prisoners aligned to each gang in the prison system with more added all the time, buffering between them isn't going to be possible. There was a documentary about Shotts prison a few years back and one of the prisoners, who murdered his brother in law, was imprisoned with the guys nephew, leading to several attacks. I also read an article yesterday about parents of a woman who took her own life in prison, they said that the prison officers told them "we can't stop her getting battered" when they went into prison to visit her. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engelbert_humperdink Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 On 22/11/2021 at 22:19, supermik said: Should hang the scum fuckers. Drugs are for mugs. Any c**t that wants to defend them are just as bad. Ain’t big or clever. Edit. 5 crackheads found. Edit. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 9 hours ago, ICTChris said: I doubt there is the capacity in the Scottish Prison service to segregate people like that. Prisons are pretty much full to capacity, in some cases they are above capacity. There are probably dozens of prisoners aligned to each gang in the prison system with more added all the time, buffering between them isn't going to be possible. There was a documentary about Shotts prison a few years back and one of the prisoners, who murdered his brother in law, was imprisoned with the guys nephew, leading to several attacks. I also read an article yesterday about parents of a woman who took her own life in prison, they said that the prison officers told them "we can't stop her getting battered" when they went into prison to visit her. I was just being a bit flippant; these incidents just scream “underfunding”. I’m sure those who work there have all the answers but none of the resources needed. There must also be an element of jail as a second (or even first) home for some of the people mentioned in this thread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, Shandon Par said: I was just being a bit flippant; these incidents just scream “underfunding”. I’m sure those who work there have all the answers but none of the resources needed. There must also be an element of jail as a second (or even first) home for some of the people mentioned in this thread. I think there have been some attempts at prison segregation betweeen the Daniels and Lyons gangs. It’s difficult though - if you put a load of gangsters together you potentially create problems in that prison, it could give them too much power. Also, people might not have set loyalties, they might lie to staff about who they are ‘with’. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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