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12 hours ago, Thistle_do_nicely said:

I wondered whether it would be leading to a death of any home vs. away format as we know it too, cant mind if it was on the back of a fag packet press release (that iirc wasnt actually letterheaded either!) but i do remember something about there eventually being at least quarter finals onwards in the ESL at some point. I could see the aim being for World Cup/Euros style bidding to be host nations for the latter knockout stage format that actually matters with the earlier regular season matches held at each clubs stadium.

So broadly it'd mean a massive change to how season tickets etc. work and are priced since you're all of a sudden needing to think about accommodation and flights based on how your team performs, which would be nigh on impossible to predict in reasonable time.

Legacy fans and their season ticket/matchday interests < potential revenue from getting pissing contests on the go from nations to host the """product""", basically.

There were reports In Italy & France a couple of days ago of this being brought in for the CL semi's soon (2022/23). Despite it being agreed upon by pretty much everyone, it seems like there's very few people who genuinely like the planned new format for 2024/25 and changes could be made to it soon.

16 hours ago, Forest_Fifer said:

2 clubs will qualify through historic performances, but it's already been suggested this week that there will be pushback on that from some of the mid level leagues to try to get another 2 direct champion entries.

Is giving more champions more direct places without any counter measures definitely a positive?

If there's no changes to the EL and conf. group stages money, or the solidarity payments for teams who go out in qualifiers/don't get into Europe at all, what will the domestic leagues across Europe end up looking like?
Dinamo Zagreb, Olympiacos, Slavia Prague, Young Boys, Salzburg, Ajax etc. winning every season?

Things are already going downhill this decade and some of the most fucked up "financial redistribution measures" have only been in place a handful of seasons.

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Barcelona, Real Madrid & Juventus look like they might take this further in the courts. Presumably to set a legal precedent for any further attempts 10-15 years down the road.
The nine others have agreed to be reintegrated back into UEFA after signing a "really sorry about that whole super league thing" document.
Barcelona may well officially pull out if the members vote is still going ahead.
Juve and Real Madrid have dug their heels in pretty hard and are considering trying to recoup money from the other clubs according to the NYT.
Stronger punishment likely coming for those three teams.

https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/mediaservices/mediareleases/news/0269-123871bd86ca-d9571aa78f72-1000--/

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/07/sports/soccer/super-league-real-madrid-barcelona.html?referringSource=articleShare

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58032324

bump.

So is it still a dead duck or are those 3 just trying to wriggle out of Uefa hammering them/desperately trying to keep it alive? The statement from the three seems unequivocal that the court ruling went in favour of the ESL clubs, but haven't seen anything else on it tbh.

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32 minutes ago, Thistle_do_nicely said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58032324

bump.

So is it still a dead duck or are those 3 just trying to wriggle out of Uefa hammering them/desperately trying to keep it alive? The statement from the three seems unequivocal that the court ruling went in favour of the ESL clubs, but haven't seen anything else on it tbh.

I'm pretty sure it's a ploy by the three biggest shitebag clubs in world football

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There's a joint statement released. https://www.juventus.com/en/news/articles/statement-from-barcelona-juventus-and-real-madrid-30-07-21

Absolutely hilarious that it bemoans insufficient financial controls when Barcelona is the poster child of mismanagement and can't even register new signings until players are sold. Get your own house in order first. 

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Was the court in Madrid one that Uefa would have to follow or is it just Spanish team using a Spanish court to say their piece ie fc sion and their shite a few years back

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European Super League to be re-launched
 

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The controversial European Super League appears to not be completely dead as three of the continent's biggest sides are set to relaunch the competition next week.


After years of speculation, plans for the ESL were first unveiled in April 2021 which sent shockwaves through the world of football.


The new league, which did not include promotion or relegation, was launched by 12 'founding members' including Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Manchester City, Chelsea and Tottenham.


Alongside this, Spanish sides Barcelona, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid and Italian counterpats Juventus, AC Milan and Inter Milan all agreed to join too.


However, the reaction from fans in opposing the plans was so strong that the league fell apart within 48 hours of its launch.


Nine clubs - including all six English clubs - quit the League, with the Premier League sides receiving a fine as punishment.


Now, those clubs are reportedly set to announce the return of the league with new proposals that would no longer mean there were permanent members.


The Telegraph reports that Juventus president Andrea Agnelli is due to speak on Thursday where he will unveil the new plans.


Among the changes will be the introduction of a traditional domestic league qualification and the clubs behind it also say it will allow for the creation of new teams in countries such as Luxembourg as well as cities like Dublin.


UEFA and the Premier League believe the competition is 'dead in the water', but the three that remain believe a deal can still be done at some point.



The ESL was established due to growing discontent at the way UEFA ran its European competitions. The Telegraph claims that the three rebels will challenge what it calls UEFA's 'monopolistic' position on European football at a hearing in the European Court of Justice later this year.


They also take issue with UEFA's perceived close ties to certain clubs and have highlighted PSG president Nasser Al-Khelaifi as a prime example.


PSG were not included in the initial launch but since the botched plan, Al-Khelaifi has seen his stock rise in the game. 


He is chairman of the European Club Association, which lobbies Uefa on behalf of the club and is also chairman of beIN Media which owns UEFA broadcast rights in the Middle East. Additionally, he co-owns the commercial entity UCCSA which is at the of UEFA competitions. 


The Telegraph reports that in a document authored in September by the remaining ESL members, it argues: 'Since within the EU a club cannot benefit from state aids from its own member state … why should it be allowed that the football market be disrupted, to the exclusive benefit of a few state-owned clubs, because of state aids coming from non-member states?' 


A corporate entity, known as A22, was established for the ESL and has legal counsel as well as a Brussels lobby group.

It remains to be seen how other teams will react to the proposed changes but the Premier League teams at least will be unable to join after new regulations made it impossible for rebels to join an unsanctioned competition.



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PS excuse the source being the Daily Mail. My usual means of bypassing paywalls doesn't work with the Telegraph who initially broke the story.

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2 hours ago, CambieBud said:

It’s back on I see. Always seemed inevitable that this would happen some day. It was never going away

"Back on" is stretching a point

It's still essentially driven by three clubs but this time they're trying to take 77 others with them

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