Jambomo Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, The Golden God said: How the f**k are Newcastle considered a big enough club to be involved in this shite? Are they?? I totally missed that 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle Scotland Europe Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 I think if a European Super League only contains sides from England, Spain, and Italy. It should just be called the English- Italian,-Spanish League; It is not a European Super League if it only has 3 nations. If Scotland, Switzerland and Greece create League can we call that the European Premier League? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 The outcome will be protected places in the CL forever for certain clubs and more of a share of revenues going direct to clubs and/or the ability of clubs to negotiate their own broadcast deals. I couldn't give a shit really. Let them do it, European club football is already fucked. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karpaty Lviv Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Thistle Scotland Europe said: I think if a European Super League only contains sides from England, Spain, and Italy. It should just be called the English- Italian,-Spanish League; It is not a European Super League if it only has 3 nations. If Scotland, Switzerland and Greece create League can we call that the European Premier League? Celtic-Ajeti-Barkas Banter League. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, Thistle Scotland Europe said: I think if a European Super League only contains sides from England, Spain, and Italy. It should just be called the English- Italian,-Spanish League; It is not a European Super League if it only has 3 nations. If Scotland, Switzerland and Greece create League can we call that the European Premier League? Like the world series in baseball? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunfermline Don Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 It’s a no from York! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBFaeDundee Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 If nothing else, the Super League has provided us with the quote tweets of this which are great. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdcal Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Actually, there is potential here. A super league that takes the champions of each league every season. Even a championship with promotion relegation for lower countries on the coefficient.. Replace each team with champions of their league each season unless outright winner.Some form of league of champions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Celtic's application to join has just reached the organisers, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger29 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Exactly. This will eventually lead to salary caps in the ESL that will still allow them to offer significantly more money than any non-ESL club. The owners are ruthless capitalists that don't want to pay the players a cent more than they have to.I think The Times said this is already in the works. Soft cap of 55% of turnover for wages and net transfer spend.A super league may happen at some point relatively soon but I don't see it in the next 5 years or so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Looking forward to the realisation from the EPL that the big 6 essentially are the Premier League, for all but a few thousand fans in England. It seems to me that UEFA's gradual reforms to the Champions League every TV rights cycle would ultimately lead to a European Super League anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 1 minute ago, charger29 said: 48 minutes ago, G51 said: Exactly. This will eventually lead to salary caps in the ESL that will still allow them to offer significantly more money than any non-ESL club. The owners are ruthless capitalists that don't want to pay the players a cent more than they have to. I think The Times said this is already in the works. Soft cap of 55% of turnover for wages and net transfer spend. They want the NFL, but for soccer. Two of the English club owners are also NFL owners, and another is an MLB owner. NFL franchises are profit makers for their owners. Football clubs are loss makers. These guys don't want to sink their personal fortunes into football clubs, they want supporters to do it while they still get to play the role of owner. The way to do that is to put the brakes on your biggest expense, which is player salaries. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfCutNinja Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Miguel Sanchez said: Can't wait for HalfCutNinja's response to this Its patently nonsense. Look at people like Andy Robertson crying tears of joy at Scotland just qualifying for something. An EPL and CL winner and a draw against Serbia was clearly the highlight of his career. International football will always trump everything as its special in a way that club football could never be. Kieran Tierney isn't from Arsenal, and no amount of money can replicate what international football can do for a player. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Look at the absolute wrong'uns at the head of this 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, G51 said: They want the NFL, but for soccer. Two of the English club owners are also NFL owners, and another is an MLB owner. NFL franchises are profit makers for their owners. Football clubs are loss makers. These guys don't want to sink their personal fortunes into football clubs, they want supporters to do it while they still get to play the role of owner. The way to do that is to put the brakes on your biggest expense, which is player salaries. Aye it isn't exactly rocket science. Barcelona, one of the biggest and most successful clubs in the world, are €1B in debt. Where as every owner in the NFL is guaranteed an 8 figure profit per year no matter the results. Changing the economics of how top level football operates seems obvious in this situation. So this isn't just driven by greed. There is a chance that a massive club like Barca or Juve could do a Rangers (1872) The pressure to change is coming from the people owed billions of euros. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 22 minutes ago, G51 said: They want the NFL, but for soccer. Two of the English club owners are also NFL owners, and another is an MLB owner. NFL franchises are profit makers for their owners. Football clubs are loss makers. These guys don't want to sink their personal fortunes into football clubs, they want supporters to do it while they still get to play the role of owner. The way to do that is to put the brakes on your biggest expense, which is player salaries. American sport however doesn’t have the concept of free agency that football has. Totally different dynamics. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Left Back said: American sport however doesn’t have the concept of free agency that football has. Totally different dynamics. It absolutely does - we call it a Bosman. It also has the equivalent of trades - we call them transfers. What it doesn't have is a draft, but it's easy enough to replicate this through homegrown rules and limiting non-ESL transfers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Left Back said: American sport however doesn’t have the concept of free agency that football has. Totally different dynamics. Yes it does. There are more restrictions on free agency but every major league has free agents. Tom Brady signed for Tampa last season as a free agent LeBron James signed for the Lakers as a free agent 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Left Back said: American sport however doesn’t have the concept of free agency that football has. Totally different dynamics. Yes it does. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 1 minute ago, G51 said: It absolutely does - we call it a Bosman. It also has the equivalent of trades - we call them transfers. What it doesn't have is a draft, but it's easy enough to replicate this through homegrown rules and limiting non-ESL transfers. Once a player is drafted they’re tied to that club for years and can’t renegotiate their contract. That allows clubs to keep players on artificially low salaries for a period. It’s only later in their careers they gain free agency. They can’t force trades in the way footballers can break contracts and be transferred. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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