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15 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said:

Lots of angry Nats on tonight.

Ah, another Friday night, another sad example of a middle-aged nothing indulging in a bit of this. Surely your made-up family can entertain you of a weekend?

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13 hours ago, HTG said:

Crack on blocking - when you reach the point where you've blocked everyone except The Kincardine, you'll have reached peak Alba. 

Snp voter m8y

12 hours ago, The_Kincardine said:

 

 

@Kenneth840These are the joyous civic nationalists that you're depending on to take NewCo Scotland into the sunlit uplands of independence.  This is them on a good day.

I dont understand why people have to resort to insults when posting. There is no need for it. 

11 hours ago, Namond Brice said:

 

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Independence is about taking decisions for Scotland in Scotland based on how the people who live here vote. That will include cooperation with other countries where it make sense and divergence where it doesn't. In what form of democracy can a neighbouring country deny the legitimate moral wishes of another, be that a for referendum, safe drug consumption facilities or defending children's rights?

Sadly, until we have independence, we face the prospect of a Westminster government, populated by Harry Enfield caricatures of politicians, imposing hard-right social and economic policies that 70% plus of us haven't voted for.

Achieving independence is about convincing the "middle ground" that it's in our best interests. I simply don't believe that the creation of Alba makes that job any easier. I also doubt that it will make much progress in elections. We shall see.

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19 hours ago, Baxter Parp said:

Let me be clear, The Alba Party, filled as it is with conspiracists, homophobes and transphobes, is a barrier to independence. 

Never bothered you when they were pissing and shitting themselves inside the tent!

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2 hours ago, Saltire said:

Independence is about taking decisions for Scotland in Scotland based on how the people who live here vote. That will include cooperation with other countries where it make sense and divergence where it doesn't. In what form of democracy can a neighbouring country deny the legitimate moral wishes of another, be that a for referendum, safe drug consumption facilities or defending children's rights?

Sadly, until we have independence, we face the prospect of a Westminster government, populated by Harry Enfield caricatures of politicians, imposing hard-right social and economic policies that 70% plus of us haven't voted for.

Achieving independence is about convincing the "middle ground" that it's in our best interests. I simply don't believe that the creation of Alba makes that job any easier. I also doubt that it will make much progress in elections. We shall see.

Agree with most of your post, but democracy doesnt apply to Scotland. 

The British state will do their best to keep a hold of Scotland, the managed democracy that we have means we will never be free.. 

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No they haven't. . Your opinions are based solely on whatever current SNP policy is.


I know you love pedantry ma man so we have to acknowledge it’s an evolution even if it’s entirely cynical.
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I always amazes me that the Alba supporters feel that by creating this breakaway splinter group who attack the SNP at every single opportunity, feel that in some way they are helping the independence cause. They are not.

The wavering voters will look at the independence movement and see a chaotic mess of in-fighting, often over issues that have little or nothing to do with independence, but very much to do with ego. Will the presence of Alex Salmond's group persuade any of these folk to come to the Yes side? Will trashing the record of the SNP government convince people that Scotland can go it alone?

Alba are not a gateway to independence. Despite their tiny appeal, they are a barrier to it.

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7 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

I always amazes me that the Alba supporters feel that by creating this breakaway splinter group who attack the SNP at every single opportunity, feel that in some way they are helping the independence cause. They are not.

The wavering voters will look at the independence movement and see a chaotic mess of in-fighting, often over issues that have little or nothing to do with independence, but very much to do with ego. Will the presence of Alex Salmond's group persuade any of these folk to come to the Yes side? Will trashing the record of the SNP government convince people that Scotland can go it alone?

Alba are not a gateway to independence. Despite their tiny appeal, they are a barrier to it.

Alba will become the new “Scottish Resistance” for the media during the next referendum 

They’ll be following it’s more looney supporters around like a bad smell 

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I always amazes me that the Alba supporters feel that by creating this breakaway splinter group who attack the SNP at every single opportunity, feel that in some way they are helping the independence cause. They are not.
The wavering voters will look at the independence movement and see a chaotic mess of in-fighting, often over issues that have little or nothing to do with independence, but very much to do with ego. Will the presence of Alex Salmond's group persuade any of these folk to come to the Yes side? Will trashing the record of the SNP government convince people that Scotland can go it alone?
Alba are not a gateway to independence. Despite their tiny appeal, they are a barrier to it.
Indeed. They come across as a bunch of whiny nutbags who, when the next IndyRef fails will be spewing bile about blaming everyone else bar themselves for infighting. They also seem to think that justifiable criticism of their arsehole candidates means
"YoU mUsT wAnT tO sTaY iN tHe UnIoN".

They should simply be treated as a herding pen for the nutter/da fringes of the Indy movement and mocked/ignored as appropriate.
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Certainly their most vocal supporters online don't seem terribly interested in winning new converts to the cause, holding on to soft Yes voters or, indeed, whether or not a majority of people would even vote for independence. There's a majority of indy MSPs, so Sturgeon must UDI now (as if that's what Salmond would do).

Thankfully, they all appear to be moaning-faced shitebags rather than actual nutters liable to try mixing nitroglycerine in the garden shed.

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The main thing imo is that for the next Indy ref we get a coalition of positivity for independence and forgetting about what a shit show he delivered we should get exactly the same feeling that new labour and Blair got on the run up to winning that election. Thats the way to bring Scotland into independence on pure positivity about what we can achieve. Id get away from being overly focused on how shite the Tories are, it should be highlighted but focus too much on that and it becomes just a negative feeling in the end all round.

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40 minutes ago, BigDoddyKane said:

The main thing imo is that for the next Indy ref we get a coalition of positivity for independence and forgetting about what a shit show he delivered we should get exactly the same feeling that new labour and Blair got on the run up to winning that election. Thats the way to bring Scotland into independence on pure positivity about what we can achieve. Id get away from being overly focused on how shite the Tories are, it should be highlighted but focus too much on that and it becomes just a negative feeling in the end all round.

Agree to an extent, but it’s also crucial not to let the UK side attempt to castigate independence as a pipe dream fantasy whilst they’re bastions of stability and the old order. If that means pointing out how far the UK has fallen in the last years, so be it: a mix of a positive alternative future versus sinking further into a hideous Torified fantasy of the past is probably needed.

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6 hours ago, BigDoddyKane said:

The main thing imo is that for the next Indy ref we get a coalition of positivity for independence and forgetting about what a shit show he delivered we should get exactly the same feeling that new labour and Blair got on the run up to winning that election. Thats the way to bring Scotland into independence on pure positivity about what we can achieve. Id get away from being overly focused on how shite the Tories are, it should be highlighted but focus too much on that and it becomes just a negative feeling in the end all round.

A big factor in that New Labour feeling was sheer exhaustion of Tory rule which has to be highlighted again and again going forward

ETA: At the same time we are rapidly approaching conditions which aren't comparable to 1997. 

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20 hours ago, BFTD said:

Certainly their most vocal supporters online don't seem terribly interested in winning new converts to the cause, holding on to soft Yes voters or, indeed, whether or not a majority of people would even vote for independence. There's a majority of indy MSPs, so Sturgeon must UDI now (as if that's what Salmond would do).

Thankfully, they all appear to be moaning-faced shitebags rather than actual nutters liable to try mixing nitroglycerine in the garden shed.

It's particularly striking with a lot of Alba supporters that it seems like there's absolutely no consideration of what people in the middle of the independence question (undecideds / Soft No / Soft Yes) want. It's absolutely all about them. Which kind of fits into the majority being raging middle-aged gammons.

Can't remember who posted this on the Labour thread but it's similar to the hard left being absolutely raging at Tony Blair. It barely matters. It's the people in the middle who matter, the people who could be convinced to vote Labour or could be convinced to vote Tory. Every serious person understands that and every successful campaign caters to that.

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The alba party in the main seem like complete loons but imo the SNP arent great either how long have they been on the go? and we still never got independence. Currently they are the best on offer in Scotland but a lot of that is due to a Tory government/Brexit that even for tories is disgraceful and an oppostion in Labour and in Scotland that are non entities.

Some self evaluation by the SNP currently would go a long way to improving the Indy2 chances for going forward towards independence

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