The_Kincardine Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 54 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said: racist losers 54 minutes ago, Antlion said: sad, xenophobic, hate-filled old failure 26 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: conspiracist arseholes @Kenneth840These are the joyous civic nationalists that you're depending on to take NewCo Scotland into the sunlit uplands of independence. This is them on a good day. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 15 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: @Kenneth840These are the joyous civic nationalists that you're depending on to take NewCo Scotland into the sunlit uplands of independence. This is them on a good day. I don’t think “civic nationalism”, by any definition (other than your own), requires cuddling up to far-right, xenophobic racists like yourself, whose MO is to stir up grievance and trawl Twitter for like-minded extremists (so you can promote them just before they’re banned). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Venom Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Kincardine: Self-determination for Scotland is cultish. Also Kincardine: supports a football team and a union joined at the hip through historical protestant-exceptionalism and fled to England so his kids would only get British brain-washed, not Scottish brain-washed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 39 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: @Kenneth840These are the joyous civic nationalists that you're depending on to take NewCo Scotland into the sunlit uplands of independence. This is them on a good day. Civic nationalism means rejecting homophobia, sectarianism and hate, you stupid bigoted f**k. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Lots of angry Nats on tonight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 15 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: Lots of angry Nats on tonight. Ah, another Friday night, another sad example of a middle-aged nothing indulging in a bit of this. Surely your made-up family can entertain you of a weekend? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 23 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: I am irrelevant FTFY 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenneth840 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 13 hours ago, HTG said: Crack on blocking - when you reach the point where you've blocked everyone except The Kincardine, you'll have reached peak Alba. Snp voter m8y 12 hours ago, The_Kincardine said: @Kenneth840These are the joyous civic nationalists that you're depending on to take NewCo Scotland into the sunlit uplands of independence. This is them on a good day. I dont understand why people have to resort to insults when posting. There is no need for it. 11 hours ago, Namond Brice said: Approx 35 Hz 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltire Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Independence is about taking decisions for Scotland in Scotland based on how the people who live here vote. That will include cooperation with other countries where it make sense and divergence where it doesn't. In what form of democracy can a neighbouring country deny the legitimate moral wishes of another, be that a for referendum, safe drug consumption facilities or defending children's rights? Sadly, until we have independence, we face the prospect of a Westminster government, populated by Harry Enfield caricatures of politicians, imposing hard-right social and economic policies that 70% plus of us haven't voted for. Achieving independence is about convincing the "middle ground" that it's in our best interests. I simply don't believe that the creation of Alba makes that job any easier. I also doubt that it will make much progress in elections. We shall see. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted October 9, 2021 Author Share Posted October 9, 2021 19 hours ago, Baxter Parp said: Let me be clear, The Alba Party, filled as it is with conspiracists, homophobes and transphobes, is a barrier to independence. Never bothered you when they were pissing and shitting themselves inside the tent! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenneth840 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Saltire said: Independence is about taking decisions for Scotland in Scotland based on how the people who live here vote. That will include cooperation with other countries where it make sense and divergence where it doesn't. In what form of democracy can a neighbouring country deny the legitimate moral wishes of another, be that a for referendum, safe drug consumption facilities or defending children's rights? Sadly, until we have independence, we face the prospect of a Westminster government, populated by Harry Enfield caricatures of politicians, imposing hard-right social and economic policies that 70% plus of us haven't voted for. Achieving independence is about convincing the "middle ground" that it's in our best interests. I simply don't believe that the creation of Alba makes that job any easier. I also doubt that it will make much progress in elections. We shall see. Agree with most of your post, but democracy doesnt apply to Scotland. The British state will do their best to keep a hold of Scotland, the managed democracy that we have means we will never be free.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Never bothered you when they were pissing and shitting themselves inside the tent! My opinions have evolved over many years. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 On 09/10/2021 at 16:23, Baxter Parp said: My opinions have evolved over many years. No they haven't. . Your opinions are based solely on whatever current SNP policy is. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 No they haven't. [emoji23]. Your opinions are based solely on whatever current SNP policy is.Pish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 No they haven't. [emoji23]. Your opinions are based solely on whatever current SNP policy is.I know you love pedantry ma man so we have to acknowledge it’s an evolution even if it’s entirely cynical. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 I always amazes me that the Alba supporters feel that by creating this breakaway splinter group who attack the SNP at every single opportunity, feel that in some way they are helping the independence cause. They are not. The wavering voters will look at the independence movement and see a chaotic mess of in-fighting, often over issues that have little or nothing to do with independence, but very much to do with ego. Will the presence of Alex Salmond's group persuade any of these folk to come to the Yes side? Will trashing the record of the SNP government convince people that Scotland can go it alone? Alba are not a gateway to independence. Despite their tiny appeal, they are a barrier to it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, scottsdad said: I always amazes me that the Alba supporters feel that by creating this breakaway splinter group who attack the SNP at every single opportunity, feel that in some way they are helping the independence cause. They are not. The wavering voters will look at the independence movement and see a chaotic mess of in-fighting, often over issues that have little or nothing to do with independence, but very much to do with ego. Will the presence of Alex Salmond's group persuade any of these folk to come to the Yes side? Will trashing the record of the SNP government convince people that Scotland can go it alone? Alba are not a gateway to independence. Despite their tiny appeal, they are a barrier to it. Alba will become the new “Scottish Resistance” for the media during the next referendum They’ll be following it’s more looney supporters around like a bad smell 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 I always amazes me that the Alba supporters feel that by creating this breakaway splinter group who attack the SNP at every single opportunity, feel that in some way they are helping the independence cause. They are not. The wavering voters will look at the independence movement and see a chaotic mess of in-fighting, often over issues that have little or nothing to do with independence, but very much to do with ego. Will the presence of Alex Salmond's group persuade any of these folk to come to the Yes side? Will trashing the record of the SNP government convince people that Scotland can go it alone? Alba are not a gateway to independence. Despite their tiny appeal, they are a barrier to it.Indeed. They come across as a bunch of whiny nutbags who, when the next IndyRef fails will be spewing bile about blaming everyone else bar themselves for infighting. They also seem to think that justifiable criticism of their arsehole candidates means "YoU mUsT wAnT tO sTaY iN tHe UnIoN". They should simply be treated as a herding pen for the nutter/da fringes of the Indy movement and mocked/ignored as appropriate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Certainly their most vocal supporters online don't seem terribly interested in winning new converts to the cause, holding on to soft Yes voters or, indeed, whether or not a majority of people would even vote for independence. There's a majority of indy MSPs, so Sturgeon must UDI now (as if that's what Salmond would do). Thankfully, they all appear to be moaning-faced shitebags rather than actual nutters liable to try mixing nitroglycerine in the garden shed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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