Thorongil Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Day of the Lords said: OK so were the views of loser candidates like Alex Arthur completely made up? Did Chris McEleny not just encourage a twitter pile-on which included death threats to an MSP after deliberately misrepresenting one of her tweets? Alba are a joke outfit and little more than a home for angry divorced da's and various other moonhowlers, this neatly being demonstrated by their frankly hilarious 1.66% vote share in the last election. I am a member of Alba due to my support for Alex Salmond and belief in independence. I had been a member of the SNP for 15 years prior to joining Alba. I do however keep my membership under review because much of the criticism of Alba is valid. The likes of McEleny and Arthur are absolute liabilities. To become a real credible party a lot of work needs to be done. Edited January 7, 2022 by Thorongil 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Analytica Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 54 minutes ago, AsimButtHitsASix said: Dunno if you've noticed but one of the biggest sticks to beat the SNP for years has been they "only care about independence". Them making efforts to prove their priority is good governance for Scotland, as opposed to independence for independence sake, is what got them into power and has kept them there. If they had just banged on about independence and independence alone, as Alba try and do, they'd probably end up with a similar vote share. The "prove competency in governance" phase for the SNP, which was always supposed to be a precursor to securing independence, primarily took place between 2007 and 2014, when most of the SNP's flagship policies were enacted. Since then, there have been very few tangible achievements. ALBA have some very good social policies that aren't specifically related to independence. Particularly, their policies on poverty and housing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, Ayrshire Analytica said: ALBA have some very good social policies that aren't specifically related to independence. Particularly, their policies on poverty and housing. Funny, their supporters don't talk about that much. It's been all Unionist conspiracy theories and genitals so far. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 If a “new political vehicle to achieve independence” is required, it won’t be fucking Alba and their band of crackpots. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorongil Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 26 minutes ago, Ayrshire Analytica said: The "prove competency in governance" phase for the SNP, which was always supposed to be a precursor to securing independence, primarily took place between 2007 and 2014, when most of the SNP's flagship policies were enacted. Since then, there have been very few tangible achievements. ALBA have some very good social policies that aren't specifically related to independence. Particularly, their policies on poverty and housing. Agreed. Since Sturgeon took over from Salmond, civic and social progress has halted and largely slid back. She has no actual achievements to speak of, which is disgraceful. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Analytica Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, BFTD said: Funny, their supporters don't talk about that much. It's been all Unionist conspiracy theories and genitals so far. Sums up the New SNP fairly succinctly. -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 I would have thought these dangers would have folded by now tbqh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Another new (?) member joins claiming to be an Alba supporter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futureboy Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 I have no idea how anyone could read the online output of the Alba moonhowlers and think "that's the party for me". Did they not poll at less than 1% recently, yet consider themselves a credible alternative to the SNP? They will self implode soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 47 minutes ago, Ayrshire Analytica said: Sums up the New SNP fairly succinctly. Cute, but I'm not wrong, am I? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorongil Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, BFTD said: Cute, but I'm not wrong, am I? Neither is he. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, Thorongil said: Neither is he. He very clearly is -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Analytica Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Thorongil said: Agreed. Since Sturgeon took over from Salmond, civic and social progress has halted and largely slid back. She has no actual achievements to speak of, which is disgraceful. The only folk who try to defend her record as FM at this point are the sycophantic careerists that she's surrounded herself with, who you just know would have been part of New Labour a generation or two ago, and her online fanclub who see her as a sort of patron saint of woke, to whom, she can do no wrong. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 48 minutes ago, scottsdad said: Another new (?) member joins claiming to be an Alba supporter I reckon @Thorongil, @Ayrshire Analytica, @Scott Steiner and @Buc1958 are all undercover saboteurs sent over from Mumsnet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ayrshire Analytica said: The only folk who try to defend her record as FM at this point are the sycophantic careerists that she's surrounded herself with, who you just know would have been part of New Labour a generation or two ago, and her online fanclub who see her as a sort of patron saint of woke, to whom, she can do no wrong. Yet the SNP have never polled better. Alba supporters seem to be of two types, neanderthals who feel bitter about being left behind as younger more progressive types make their way up the party hierarchy and twitter obsessives who want to play the populist culture wars. Thus 1.6%. Edited January 7, 2022 by welshbairn 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I reckon @Thorongil, @Ayrshire Analytica, @Scott Steiner and @Buc1958 are all undercover saboteurs sent over from Mumsnet. There are only two forums on the internet, after all. The others are just kidding themselves on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Has Graeme Linehan showed up on PnB yet? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, AsimButtHitsASix said: Has Graeme Linehan showed up on PnB yet? How would we possibly know? Mr Performatively Angry of Bath has, but slunk off after being laughed at for his footballing views. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 21 minutes ago, Ayrshire Analytica said: The only folk who try to defend her record as FM at this point are the sycophantic careerists that she's surrounded herself with, who you just know would have been part of New Labour a generation or two ago, and her online fanclub who see her as a sort of patron saint of woke, to whom, she can do no wrong. ^^^ Chris McEleny found 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Jack D Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Thorongil said: I am a member of Alba due to my support for Alex Salmond and belief in independence. I had been a member of the SNP for 15 years prior to joining Alba. I do however keep my membership under review because much of the criticism of Alba is valid. The likes of McEleny and Arthur are absolute liabilities. To become a real credible party a lot of work needs to be done. This is where I'm at. The idea of the Alba party is sound but the real life product, at this particular time, is awful. As long as the constitution dominates Scottish politics the destination of my vote is extremely limited as I simply cannot vote for any pro union option. Both the SNP and Alba need to pull their fucking socks up sharpish otherwise my participation in a future election may, for the first time in my adult life, be in serious doubt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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