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Scottish Parliamentary Elections May 2021


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15 minutes ago, virginton said:

I hate to break this to you, but Unionists loathed Alex Salmond in 2007 when the SNP took power, and in 2011 when they won a majority of seats, and all through the independence referendum campaign in which yes climbed from 25% to 45%.

The change in Salmond's popularity has come from the vast majority of the SNP choosing Team Nicola in a tawdry civil war, so how exactly would his election to Parliament change the dynamic on the No side? Alex Salmond getting elected would have been bad news for Team Nicola. It would have little objective consequence to the Yes movement. 

None of which negates the fact Salmond is now electoral poison, as wholly demonstrated by his dismal showing in this election. When a 70s rock band needs to pay off a tax bill but fractures into ‘Starshine’ and ‘The Real Starshine’ nobody goes to see the one with the non-current lead singer and a shower of mutants for a backing band. 

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Lib Dem voters really showing their true colours at this election, a massively pro-EU party (apparently), but yet propping up the unionist parties at any given chance! Surely a vote for SNP would make more sense, but being part of the Union seems to trump everything, absolutely pathetic stuff!

Where do all these people come from, I have never met a Lib Dem voter in my life!

As for people like Willie Rennie, he perfectly encapsulates the daft wee, smiley downtrodden Scot! Quite happy to shout from the sidelines, but would shit the bed immediately if  any true responsibilities with actual consequences was offered to him. Again, absolutely pathetic!

Having said all that, the unionists can spin this any way they like, but yet again the parliament will be very much pro Indy  and therefore will be entitled to hold another independence referendum.

It’s only a matter of time, thankfully the vast majority of younger people see right through people like Willie Rennie.

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1 hour ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Yes twitter seemingly seething at the voters of Dumbarton for having the audacity to reject a shite SNP candidate. Seen people referring to a place that voted overwhelmingly for yes in 2014 calling Dumbarton residents ‘traitors’ etc. Thats hardly going to win anyone over is it? 
If you look at it, Dumbarton and Clydebank, overwhelming for yes in 2014, snp MP since Doyle got punted, The voters didnt fail the SNP there, the SNP failed to inspire the voters.

Plus it was those posh helensburgh c***s

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4 minutes ago, GordonS said:

FWIW, the validation stage comes before counting, and that's when they do ballot box sampling. If they do a decent sample and the majority is more than about 2%, they'll know the result already.

Fair enough. I'd be surprised if they didn't scoop up the "Lib Dem" vote and increase their majority, but the glimmer of hope for the SNP is they're overperforming their GE2019 vote in the north-east and the Tories are underperforming, and they came surprisingly close to taking the equivalent Westminster seat then.

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1 hour ago, Donathan said:

 

 


Sorry heading out on a pub crawl around Southend at 12pm.... but one nugget for you. Hearing Aberdeenshire West looking good for the SNP, and that probably means majority

 

 

 

49 minutes ago, Donathan said:

Aberdeenshire West looking good for the Conservatives now

I’m so confused. A lot can change in 10 minutes.

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Just now, Scary Bear said:

 

I’m so confused. A lot can change in 10 minutes.

A lot can change in 10 minutes, but you can always rely on Donathan to be consistently full of shite.

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25 minutes ago, GordonS said:

The seat hasn't changed boundaries though so it's no more difficult than anywhere else. You just bang in the numbers and compare them with 2016. 

What I mean is that it depends on where the sampling you talk of takes place.  For example, you couldn't just take a sample from white-settler-central Banchory, the same number from Huntly and expect to get an accurate prediction from that.

Aberdeenshire West takes in areas that in the WM elections are Tory-held West Aberdeenshire & Kincardine and SNP-held Gordon

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The BBC doing a fine job, trying to pretend that a SNP majority is possible. Anyone who has been paying attention knows that with the swings elsewhere, Ross County have more chance of winning next year's Premiership than the SNP have of getting a majority now. 

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3 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said:

...but it's not 50%+1 voting for pro-Yes parties so it looks like No would probably still have won a referndum if a ballot on that had also been provided as opinion polls are also suggesting right now. 

If the SNP doesn't reach 65 today Boris will have a set of arguments that will look reasonable enough to many people for not going along with a second referendum. The SNP have done very well in this election but not so well that a Yes victory is assured in the short to medium term.

Today's older generation will have to largely have departed the scene before there is likely to be a solid pro-independence majority that will stand up to an intense few weeks of electoral campaigning.

There are quite few SNP nutters who would love to help us COGS shuffle off this Scottish paradise. Covid and care homes anyone?

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16 minutes ago, Pato said:

Not all independence backers are alike; for some it's the single animating force that gets them out of bed every day, for others it's something they think would be quite nice but can manage without it in the meantime. Perhaps people just prefer Labour's politics, or particular popular MSPs? Obviously Jackie Baillie types are just lightning rods for unionism and it wouldn't make a jot of different to their voters if they were wearing a different rosette, while Monica Lennon actually gets things done in parliament that the SNP weren't going to do, so they will still have a substantial base of people who favour them regardless of their views on the independence question.

Aye, there was a thing on the BBC this morning with a young voter who supports independence but voted Labour as she prefers their domestic agenda. Which is fair enough.

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Just now, oneteaminglasgow said:

Aye, there was a thing on the BBC this morning with a young voter who supports independence but voted Labour as she prefers their domestic agenda. Which is fair enough.

The audacity! Wait till Sarwar hears - he’ll be telling her to shove her vote up her arse.

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3 minutes ago, Andre Drazen said:

Can everyone not just block Donathon and leave the c**t screaming into the void?

True enough. Just because you have a stone in your shoe, it doesn't mean that you have to keep it there. Might give it a go, but I've never done it to anyone before. 

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2 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said:

Aye, there was a thing on the BBC this morning with a young voter who supports independence but voted Labour as she prefers their domestic agenda. Which is fair enough.

This the one with “Greg” the cafe owner? He sounded a bundle of laughs.

Wonder which team he supports.

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2 minutes ago, Blue Brazil Forever said:

There are quite few SNP nutters who would love to help us COGS shuffle off this Scottish paradise. Covid and care homes anyone?

Antiyoonism related claims could keep the Conspiracy Theories thread busy in the future. I've already heard such claims banded about tbh.

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Fluffy the clown telling us that SNP are the only 'nationalist' party. And he thinks they'll pick up enough list votes to get a majority.

Now I'm not sure if he's saying that because he believes it, or because he knows otherwise and then when the only nationalist party don't have a majority this defeats the indy argument.

Not much point worrying about it, he just thinks whatever the big parliament fucking well tell him to think.

 

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11 minutes ago, the snudge said:

Plus it was those posh helensburgh c***s

Just admit youre all a bunch of raging Unionists in Dumbarton ;)

Yeh absolutely the Helensburgh aspect wont have helped, theres probably a lot of work could be done to reassure people in Helensburgh that Faslane would form the heart of a Scottish Defence Force etc, which just doesnt seem to happen. 
 

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