GordonS Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 6.5% Tory to SNP swing for Angus Robertson to take Edinburgh Central. Interesting that the Green vote is down almost a third on last time, to under 10%. Looks like Green tactical votes helped him over the line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 The bbc...quick chuck some more yoons on 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Pato said: We seem to be moving to a 'not the SNP franchise' built around the personalities of various individual politicians who happen to be in one or other party. Quite a weird thing to think about. It is like if a unionist recognises a name that isn't SNP on the ballot they will stick a cross next to them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kejan Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Henry McLeish is still on that massive fence he's sat on since 2014! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Barns Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, Boo Khaki said: Yup. I think it had potential to be one of those things that snowballed, but the people involved just turn the stomachs of the majority. The only folk I saw seriously mooting voting for them were delusional transphob... sorry 'Gender Criticals' who were buying the 'women's rights' shite, seemingly happy to overlook who exactly the figurehead of the party is and the personal politics of a few other candidates. I told them they were just engaging in a daft wee circle-jerk and shouting at each other in an echo-chamber, but no, supposedly they hold the same views as a 'silent majority' when it comes to trans issues Difficult to do much of anything with no popular support, a leader who is less well thought of than Boris Johnson, and when the only people you can coalesce around you are those with an irrational hatred they like to dress up as something it simply is not. It's not transphobic to have a Citizens' Assembly to discuss GRA, which is ALBA's policy. All people concerned, could then hopefully reach a rational compromise, after having their views on the issues pertaining to it heard. Is that unreasonable? Some women obviously disagree with the position that debate or discussion needn't take place on this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Just now, Honest Saints Fan said: Wonder what cabinet job Angus will get? I wondered if he'd get Freeman's job. Even if he's not overly qualified, his delivery of the messages would certainly be more convincing. 2 minutes ago, GordonS said: Unpalatable or uncompetitive. The Tories never had a chance in NE Fife or Edinburgh Western anyway. Though I was always surprised the Tories didn't ride to Jo Swinson's rescue in 2019. Having grown up in Strathkelvin and Bearsden/Dunbartonshire East, I'd be fairly confident in suggesting a large swathe of Tories already voted for Swinson. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the snudge Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Henry Mcleish speaking sense for the most part. Sounds very pro independence 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Detournement said: Just like he emptied Libya. Please don't quote me again you tedious fuckwit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Just now, andrew21 said: RRA party (Ruth ran away) Ohh ahh up the rra! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Jackie Baillie smiling is never a good sign. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Jackie Baillie smirking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieson87 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Just now, Ludo*1 said: Jackie Baillie smiling is never a good sign. Looked like a brave face to me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 30 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: 31 minutes ago, GNU_Linux said: SNP hold Greenock & Inverclyde. Small reduction in majority. Swing to Labour of 1.7%. Doesn't bode well for Dumbarton Just wondering how you even remotely equate the result in an entirely different constituency to Dumbarton? That said I think Baillie will win anyway, just a bizarre conflation? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CambieBud Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Henry Mcleish speaking sense for the most part. Sounds very pro independenceThat was my take as well. Shows Labour’s problems. Many Labour people support tacitly independence but are afraid to say so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Just now, jamieson87 said: Looked like a brave face to me. I agree. I think she'd have been a lot more unbearable if she was confident. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Antlion Posted May 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Ludo*1 said: Jackie Baillie smiling is never a good sign. As many a double sausage supper knows. 25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) 33 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: 34 minutes ago, GNU_Linux said: SNP hold Greenock & Inverclyde. Small reduction in majority. Swing to Labour of 1.7%. Doesn't bode well for Dumbarton I wouldn't think that the two are correlated that much. The incumbent SNP MSP isn't pulling up any trees and every single opposition party - as in every fucking campaign for the past decade - have been peddling shite about the local hospital being turned into the tent round the back of Aintree during the Grand National. Edited May 7, 2021 by vikingTON 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Burning Barns said: It's not transphobic to have a Citizens' Assembly to discuss GRA, which is ALBA's policy. All people concerned, could then hopefully reach a rational compromise, after having their views on the issues pertaining to it heard. Is that unreasonable? Some women obviously disagree with the position that debate or discussion needn't take place on this. I was talking about a specific group of individuals who are absolutely notorious transphobes, determined to conflate the actions of abusive and predatory men with perfectly mundane behaviour on the part of transpeople. There's nothing wrong with having a debate, but likewise, there's also nothing wrong with calling out some of the utter bullshit that some of the GC side tries to hide behind. Edited May 7, 2021 by Boo Khaki 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Burning Barns said: It's not transphobic to have a Citizens' Assembly to discuss GRA, which is ALBA's policy. All people concerned, could then hopefully reach a rational compromise, after having their views on the issues pertaining to it heard. Is that unreasonable? Some women obviously disagree with the position that debate or discussion needn't take place on this. Women support self ID more than men. I don't understand why this isn't obvious, but in case it's not obvious, there's data. There's no need for a citizen's assembly, there's been plenty of consultation and the results were overwhelming. Anyone looking to cause delay is, frankly, at it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Jackie Baliey saying the labour party increased their share of the votes just as the ticker on the bottom has their constituency vote share in the negative is probably the most Jackie Baliey thing ever. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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