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I earn an average uk salary, have a great business plan that is going to make me a multimillionaire, but I was scared I came into those riches I'd only have 2 Ferraris in my luxury home garage so I haven't bothered.  Due to the tax changes I am now desperate to start the business.

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35 minutes ago, parsforlife said:

I earn an average uk salary, have a great business plan that is going to make me a multimillionaire, but I was scared I came into those riches I'd only have 2 Ferraris in by luxury home garage so I haven't bothered.  Due to the tax changes I am now desperate to start the business.

Now you can have 3 Ferraris.  That in turn leads to the 3 Ferrari problem - namely what colour to have each painted. 

Obviously the only solution is to have 6 Ferraris.  Isn't it nice to have a chancellor who would understand this sort of dilemma.

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4 hours ago, Clown Job said:

Been a while since I’ve heard the if you’re poor you are lazy argument

Get used to it, because it's a fundamental core principle of what little Kwarteng, Truss and Co do actually believe in.

On another note - Is fraudster, thief, and failed entrepreneur Michelle Mone in prison yet?

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4 hours ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

Fuller is correct.

Obviously can’t apply to everyone but there are lots of opportunities around.

Go for it

The budget gives the example 25yo on £25K an extra £124 per year - what should he do with it (apart from reduce his energy deficit)

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2 hours ago, welshbairn said:

It was in response to his "I'm alright Jack" claim to not understanding the negativity, along with him saying that the drop in sterling would be a boon for his overseas investments.

I’m just an ordinary Joe like everyone else, I expect, but the mood music permeating from here is always one of negativity.

Economic and fiscal policy needs to be made for people who are going to do something with their lives. If the country prospers then the disadvantaged can be all the more easily taken care of. 
Thats what’s wrong with Scotland. Too many people on modest incomes thus a low tax take. 
As I said earlier top rate of tax is only now coming back to the level under New Labour and bear in mind that personal allowances have been frozen causing fiscal drag. So, no big deal.
Regarding overseas investments, I expect most people will be in a pension fund which has a decent percentage of its funds overseas so again, the principle applies to most of us.
 

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1 hour ago, Theatom said:

The budget gives the example 25yo on £25K an extra £124 per year - what should he do with it (apart from reduce his energy deficit)

They should use it to develop a thriving multinational that employs thousands and teaches the world we are not to be messed with.

"From small seed to mighty oak ..."

I thought that was obvious.

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8 hours ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

 

Economic and fiscal policy needs to be made for people who are going to do something with their lives. If the country prospers then the disadvantaged can be all the more easily taken care of. 

And there we have the nasty contradiction at the heart of such politics.

There is no desire to take care of the disadvantaged when they're derided so.

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10 hours ago, Fullerene said:

Now you can have 3 Ferraris.  That in turn leads to the 3 Ferrari problem - namely what colour to have each painted. 

Obviously the only solution is to have 6 Ferraris.  Isn't it nice to have a chancellor who would understand this sort of dilemma.

Anything other than red for a Ferrari screams ‘new money’

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The Tories have abolished the top tax rate.

Coming next year: the tax rate will be reduced to zero for those earning more than £100,000 a year. That will encourage all those on minimum wage to better themselves.

Also, it will save the greedy b*****ds the effort of setting up overseas tax-avoidance schemes.

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11 hours ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

I’m just an ordinary Joe like everyone else, I expect, but the mood music permeating from here is always one of negativity.

Economic and fiscal policy needs to be made for people who are going to do something with their lives. If the country prospers then the disadvantaged can be all the more easily taken care of. 
Thats what’s wrong with Scotland. Too many people on modest incomes thus a low tax take. 
As I said earlier top rate of tax is only now coming back to the level under New Labour and bear in mind that personal allowances have been frozen causing fiscal drag. So, no big deal.
Regarding overseas investments, I expect most people will be in a pension fund which has a decent percentage of its funds overseas so again, the principle applies to most of us.
 

It's not just Scotland that thinks this budget is robbery. 

It's a shame that you don't think that people who have dedicated their lives to public service or doing an honest day's work to raise a family are "doing something with their lives". 

The privileged and lucky few in the city who make their money through usury and don't contribute to the productive economy at all make up the bulk of the top couple of percent of earners. A fair bit of the rest is made up people who live on rents and dividends of inherited wealth. Personally i don't see how what these leeches do adds any more value to the economy than any productive worker. 

According to the actual neoliberal doctrine that is being used as cover for this scam, entrepreneurs are the wealth creators in an economy. They'll generally make most of their big retuns as capital and the vast, vast majority will be unaffected by the top rate change. 

Making economic and fiscal policy for the city and ariatocracy makes no sense, unless they are your pals and you'll benefit. 

 

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1 hour ago, coprolite said:

It's not just Scotland that thinks this budget is robbery. 

It's a shame that you don't think that people who have dedicated their lives to public service or doing an honest day's work to raise a family are "doing something with their lives". 

The privileged and lucky few in the city who make their money through usury and don't contribute to the productive economy at all make up the bulk of the top couple of percent of earners. A fair bit of the rest is made up people who live on rents and dividends of inherited wealth. Personally i don't see how what these leeches do adds any more value to the economy than any productive worker. 

According to the actual neoliberal doctrine that is being used as cover for this scam, entrepreneurs are the wealth creators in an economy. They'll generally make most of their big retuns as capital and the vast, vast majority will be unaffected by the top rate change. 

Making economic and fiscal policy for the city and ariatocracy makes no sense, unless they are your pals and you'll benefit. 

 

What I like about this new approach is the direction of travel.

From having the highest taxes for about 70 years we’re  now back to a more reasonable level.

Give me all the millionaires that we can get. Brings in more tax and employment.

I celebrate people doing well and making lots of money.

Its really depressing the stuff posted on here.

Absolutely no sign of ‘get up and go’.

A little example of how to get on-

My wife and I frequent a local restaurant and we are friendly with the staff. A young teenage girl started as a waitress about 6 months ago and immediately made her mark with outstanding service and personal skills. Last week she informed us that she has been given promotion to a junior management position. Fantastic!

There are so many opportunities in the hospitality industry. Just get in there and show what your made of.

No need for doom and gloom.

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1 hour ago, GordonD said:

The Tories have abolished the top tax rate.

Coming next year: the tax rate will be reduced to zero for those earning more than £100,000 a year. That will encourage all those on minimum wage to better themselves.

Also, it will save the greedy b*****ds the effort of setting up overseas tax-avoidance schemes.

I admire that you believe minimum wage will still be around 

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6 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

What I like about this new approach is the direction of travel.

From having the highest taxes for about 70 years we’re  now back to a more reasonable level.

Give me all the millionaires that we can get. Brings in more tax and employment.

I celebrate people doing well and making lots of money.

Its really depressing the stuff posted on here.

Absolutely no sign of ‘get up and go’.

A little example of how to get on-

My wife and I frequent a local restaurant and we are friendly with the staff. A young teenage girl started as a waitress about 6 months ago and immediately made her mark with outstanding service and personal skills. Last week she informed us that she has been given promotion to a junior management position. Fantastic!

There are so many opportunities in the hospitality industry. Just get in there and show what your made of.

No need for doom and gloom.

The charming young go getter in your anecdote has been shafted by this budget. 

Did you tell her that she’s still part of the problem because of her modest income?

Or do you think that junior management in catering will take her into the top 5%?

 

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5 minutes ago, coprolite said:

The charming young go getter in your anecdote has been shafted by this budget. 

Did you tell her that she’s still part of the problem because of her modest income?

Or do you think that junior management in catering will take her into the top 5%?

 

You’re missing the point.

The changes to the top rate of tax(just back to New Labour levels) will not affect her in the slightest but it will help to encourage others to expand and, maybe in time our young friend will reach that level. Who know?

Anyway, we’ll only know if this move works after some time and certainly by the time of the next GE. Then voters will decide.

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2 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

You’re missing the point.

The changes to the top rate of tax(just back to New Labour levels) will not affect her in the slightest but it will help to encourage others to expand and, maybe in time our young friend will reach that level. Who know?

Anyway, we’ll only know if this move works after some time and certainly by the time of the next GE. Then voters will decide.

No it won’t. Trickle down is a lie.

I do like the party line about new labour. It’s like justifying Human rights abuses by saying what Stalin did. New Labour bear a big chunk of the blame for inequality in our society.

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30 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

My wife and I frequent a local restaurant and we are friendly with the staff. A young teenage girl started as a waitress about 6 months ago and immediately made her mark with outstanding service and personal skills. Last week she informed us that she has been given promotion to a junior management position. Fantastic!

And how many other waiting staff in the restaurant aren't being promoted and will have to live on poverty wages and tips? Still, at least they'll have first go at the waste food bins at the end of the day.

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What I like about this new approach is the direction of travel.
From having the highest taxes for about 70 years we’re  now back to a more reasonable level.
Give me all the millionaires that we can get. Brings in more tax and employment.
I celebrate people doing well and making lots of money.
Its really depressing the stuff posted on here.
Absolutely no sign of ‘get up and go’.
A little example of how to get on-
My wife and I frequent a local restaurant and we are friendly with the staff. A young teenage girl started as a waitress about 6 months ago and immediately made her mark with outstanding service and personal skills. Last week she informed us that she has been given promotion to a junior management position. Fantastic!
There are so many opportunities in the hospitality industry. Just get in there and show what your made of.
No need for doom and gloom.
They still have to pay for it but it will be through indirect taxes and charges - or, more likely, paying through the nose to a private supplier for services no longer provided by the public sector.
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40 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

What I like about this new approach is the direction of travel.

From having the highest taxes for about 70 years we’re  now back to a more reasonable level.

Give me all the millionaires that we can get. Brings in more tax and employment.

I celebrate people doing well and making lots of money.

Its really depressing the stuff posted on here.

Absolutely no sign of ‘get up and go’.

A little example of how to get on-

My wife and I frequent a local restaurant and we are friendly with the staff. A young teenage girl started as a waitress about 6 months ago and immediately made her mark with outstanding service and personal skills. Last week she informed us that she has been given promotion to a junior management position. Fantastic!

There are so many opportunities in the hospitality industry. Just get in there and show what your made of.

No need for doom and gloom.

😂😂😂

Yet another one of your entries for a Things that Never Happened thread. 

Dearie me.

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