Tory Lies, Corruption and Hypocrisy- Add Them Here

[Brother Blades]

4 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

Like so many of the other Tory MPs who have come to prominence during the last year Zahawi is oblivious to the public mood.  I think it’s likely that a majority of Tory voters would think his comment about the nurses vis-a-vis Putin was misplaced.

 

Your confidence in the majority of Tory voters may be misplaced I fear. 

[Granny Danger]

14 minutes ago, Brother Blades said:

Your confidence in the majority of Tory voters may be misplaced I fear. 

I don’t think that every Tory voter agrees with or approves of every statement made by a Tory spokesperson and more than any Labour voter/Labour spokesperson, SNP voter/SNP spokesperson, etc.  On occasion more will disagree than agree.

[Clown Job]

Therese Coffey says it’s not government’s job to help out food banks

The environment secretary has said it's not the government's job to provide free food to people during the cost of living crisis.

Therese Coffey, appearing in front of the Commons environment, food and rural affairs committee, said it wasn't the government's role to top up food banks after they received fewer donations.

Instead, she said she was "a strong believer in helping people get into work" so they could support themselves.

It comes as soaring energy bills and food prices continue to hit families across the UK.

On Tuesday, Coffey was asked if the government was going to make up the difference to food banks by providing free or cheap items.

She responded: "The government isn't going to provide free food and it's not the role of government to provide free food."

Food inflation surged to 12.4% in the year to November, according to data from the British Retail Consortium (BRC), sparking predictions of an "increasingly bleak" winter.

Many Britons, including those working, are now turning to food banks for help.

Coffey said the government would not intervene in the market to help farmers and the public with soaring food prices.

She told the committee: "I don't think we are at the stage of a market intervention directly when it comes to pricing."

Labour and Co-operative MP Jim McMahon criticised Coffey for her stance, tweeting: "Today the new environment secretary confirmed she hasn't got the first idea what her department actually does, what it's responsible for, or how to show any kind of political leadership.

 

Edited December 8, 2022 by Clown Job

[Clown Job]

 

[tamthebam]

13 hours ago, Clown Job said:

Therese Coffey says it’s not government’s job to help out food banks

The environment secretary has said it's not the government's job to provide free food to people during the cost of living crisis.

Therese Coffey, appearing in front of the Commons environment, food and rural affairs committee, said it wasn't the government's role to top up food banks after they received fewer donations.

Instead, she said she was "a strong believer in helping people get into work" so they could support themselves.

It comes as soaring energy bills and food prices continue to hit families across the UK.

On Tuesday, Coffey was asked if the government was going to make up the difference to food banks by providing free or cheap items.

She responded: "The government isn't going to provide free food and it's not the role of government to provide free food."

Food inflation surged to 12.4% in the year to November, according to data from the British Retail Consortium (BRC), sparking predictions of an "increasingly bleak" winter.

Many Britons, including those working, are now turning to food banks for help.

Coffey said the government would not intervene in the market to help farmers and the public with soaring food prices.

She told the committee: "I don't think we are at the stage of a market intervention directly when it comes to pricing."

Labour and Co-operative MP Jim McMahon criticised Coffey for her stance, tweeting: "Today the new environment secretary confirmed she hasn't got the first idea what her department actually does, what it's responsible for, or how to show any kind of political leadership.

 

Somebody should inform her that there are people in work who have to use food banks too, including those who are paid by the Government she is a part of 

 

[GordonD]

Meanwhile they're still going to remove the cap on bankers' bonuses.

Cap on bankers' bonuses will still be lifted - BBC News

[O'Kelly Isley III]

6 minutes ago, GordonD said:

Meanwhile they're still going to remove the cap on bankers' bonuses.

Cap on bankers' bonuses will still be lifted - BBC News

Thatcher effectively threw all but one club from the UK economic golf bag, leaving banking as the sole major activity.  As such every effort has been made to ensure that the sector operates as unfettered as possible despite the dangerous behaviours and outcomes we have already witnessed.

Although mostly a Tory obsession, don't expect any future Labour Government to make any radical changes to this disgraceful situation, unless it's in the form of yet more future taxpayer-funded bailouts.

[Leith Green]

11 hours ago, Clown Job said:

 

Not exactly a surprise.

Heard a report yesterday that the tories are looking at "the private sector" to help deal with the crisis in English waiting lists.

Tory Strategy 101 - Destroy the NHS, bring in private health care to "save it", use this as a barely disguised trojan horse to introduce the US private sector to our NHS.

Obviously only the profitable bits, areas they can make a massive profit for the smallest capital outlay.

Got some awful cancer with horrible symptoms and painful lingering death?

No problem, we have "traditional" NHS to sort that bit out - well, I say sort out, I mean as much as they can with outdated equipment and struggling staff.  Dont let that worry you though, it will only be a few months then you will be sent home or shipped out to a charity funded hospice to die  - you fucking idiots.................

[coprolite]

49 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said:

Thatcher effectively threw all but one club from the UK economic golf bag, leaving banking as the sole major activity.  As such every effort has been made to ensure that the sector operates as unfettered as possible despite the dangerous behaviours and outcomes we have already witnessed.

Although mostly a Tory obsession, don't expect any future Labour Government to make any radical changes to this disgraceful situation, unless it's in the form of yet more future taxpayer-funded bailouts.

 

34 minutes ago, Leith Green said:

Not exactly a surprise.

Heard a report yesterday that the tories are looking at "the private sector" to help deal with the crisis in English waiting lists.

Tory Strategy 101 - Destroy the NHS, bring in private health care to "save it", use this as a barely disguised trojan horse to introduce the US private sector to our NHS.

Obviously only the profitable bits, areas they can make a massive profit for the smallest capital outlay.

Got some awful cancer with horrible symptoms and painful lingering death?

No problem, we have "traditional" NHS to sort that bit out - well, I say sort out, I mean as much as they can with outdated equipment and struggling staff.  Dont let that worry you though, it will only be a few months then you will be sent home or shipped out to a charity funded hospice to die  - you fucking idiots.................

Both of these are socialising the risk for private benefit. 

The banks and pension schemes are still too big to fail so will need government support when they inevitably take too many risks for the sake of cocaine and ferraris. 

The NHS will hive off routine operations to specialist centres with "efficient" staffing and send all of their f**k ups to A&E to get mended. 

At least they won't feed poor people though. God forbid we wasted public money that could support profits for wealthy donors on keeping the dregs alive. 

[Leith Green]

1 minute ago, coprolite said:

At least they won't feed poor people though

As you say, another successful tory strategy that reaches its inevitable conclusion when ordinary people take on even more of this burden.

I see lots more people putting lots of stuff in foodank collection points in shops near me, there are a lot more calls for things like christmas dinners for the homeless etc.

I happily give to these causes, but how our governments deal with the most vulnerable in society is a mark of the kind of society we are / want to be.

And right now its a shit place to be.

[Dawson Park Boy]

You can rant as much as you like about privatisation of the health service but it’s happening without any help from anyone.

People, some of modest means, just want treatment whether hip ops, knee ops or eye ops.to get them about and start living again.

If the NHS can’t do them, the only option is to pay for them privately.

There is no big conspiracy here. It’s just people exercising their right to improve their lives in a situation where the state is useless.

Sad, but there you are.

[Leith Green]

2 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

You can rant as much as you like about privatisation of the health service but it’s happening without any help from anyone.

People, some of modest means, just want treatment whether hip ops, knee ops or eye ops.to get them about and start living again.

If the NHS can’t do them, the only option is to pay for them privately.

There is no big conspiracy here. It’s just people exercising their right to improve their lives in a situation where the state is useless.

Sad, but there you are.

You are conflating people voluntarily paying for operations (due to waiting lists) with private companies being given free reign to run parts of the NHS.

[Dawson Park Boy]

18 minutes ago, Leith Green said:

You are conflating people voluntarily paying for operations (due to waiting lists) with private companies being given free reign to run parts of the NHS.

If private companies can run parts of the NHS and do it successfully, bring it on.

The only point you need to worry about is whether the end user has to pay directly or through general taxation.

As yet, I haven’t heard of any big push to change the funding principles so what’s your point?

 

[scottsdad]

One year ago today. f**k, it seems longer.

[coprolite]

36 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

If private companies can run parts of the NHS and do it successfully, bring it on.

The only point you need to worry about is whether the end user has to pay directly or through general taxation.

As yet, I haven’t heard of any big push to change the funding principles so what’s your point?

 

That’s a big if.

parts of the NHS are privately run, dentists and GPs for example. It’s not immediately obvious that they are well run.

Private companies will want a profit. That’s money out of the system. The argument that they are more efficient is almost certainly bollocks, but they need to save more money than they take out to be effective. 
 

Like train operating companies, they’ll just take and take and run services down. It’s not 1980 anymore. Nobody serious believes private sector good state bad.

[Soapy FFC]

1 minute ago, coprolite said:

That’s a big if.

parts of the NHS are privately run, dentists and GPs for example. It’s not immediately obvious that they are well run.

Private companies will want a profit. That’s money out of the system. The argument that they are more efficient is almost certainly bollocks, but they need to save more money than they take out to be effective. 
 

Like train operating companies, they’ll just take and take and run services down. It’s not 1980 anymore. Nobody serious believes private sector good state bad.

A few years old now, but probably still holds

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-32589521

 

[GordonD]

1 hour ago, scottsdad said:

One year ago today. f**k, it seems longer.

Please don't do that. I read the headline before I read your comment and thought it was a current thing.

[Granny Danger]

5 minutes ago, GordonD said:

Please don't do that. I read the headline before I read your comment and thought it was a current thing.

So no £10 off when you spend £40 at Lidl?  That must be disappointing!

[scottsdad]

24 minutes ago, GordonD said:

Please don't do that. I read the headline before I read your comment and thought it was a current thing.

It's all kicking off!

[Granny Danger]

15 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

It's all kicking off!

I wouldn’t joke about that one tbh!