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On 17/11/2022 at 01:23, VodkaTap said:

Rangers and Celtic will always be the Old Firm since they have been referred to in that manner for such a long time

Its simply a shorthand way of collectively referring to both those all three teams

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4 hours ago, edinabear said:

Think if we see Rangers and Celtic finishing in the top 2 places there'll be a lot of pressure to promote them and expand league 2. Which actually might not be a bad thing if it opens up more promotion and relegation places.


A lot of pressure from 2 teams while the other 39 will tell them to Get tae Falkirk, money would drive this decision but the Green/Blue pound just isn’t there, the B teams aren’t bringing in the fans they thought they would. There are many teams in the T5 & T6 have much bigger fan numbers.
We played the Celtic Colts last month and there can’t have been more than 150 fans, when you remove the Mums\Dads etc, it shows that you aren’t even getting the “Never been to see MY Team” fans from the local area.

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9 hours ago, edinabear said:

Think if we see Rangers and Celtic finishing in the top 2 places there'll be a lot of pressure to promote them and expand league 2. Which actually might not be a bad thing if it opens up more promotion and relegation places.

A lot of pressure from who ? 
Doncaster and Maxwell who are told what to do by the Old Firm.!

No meetings ever held by the promised Pyramid working group but already rumours that these two without any consultation will propose a SPFL League 3 of 4x LL, 4x HL and 4 x B Teams.

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6 hours ago, Brazilianlex said:

A lot of pressure from who ? 
Doncaster and Maxwell who are told what to do by the Old Firm.!

No meetings ever held by the promised Pyramid working group but already rumours that these two without any consultation will propose a SPFL League 3 of 4x LL, 4x HL and 4 x B Teams.

I think it gets forgotten that B teams are guest teams who pay to play at level 5 in the Scottish pyramid. Each one has to apply before every season to enter the LL and pay a fee, last time it was reported as 40k. There is no guarentee that all 3 B teams will be allowed to compete in the Lowland League next season.

As long as b teams do not get in the way of LL clubs they will be quite happy to allow them to compete in their league.

16 hours ago, edinabear said:

Think if we see Rangers and Celtic finishing in the top 2 places there'll be a lot of pressure to promote them and expand league 2. Which actually might not be a bad thing if it opens up more promotion and relegation places.

If this scenario does come about it could mean the end of B teams in the Lowland League since it goes against the agreement the clubs made allowing B teams to compete in their league. Given the hostility from the SPFL clubs towards B teams especially Rangers and Celtic it's extremely unlikely the member clubs will allow either Rangers or Celtic B teams to compete in their league, even if both parent clubs wave great wads of cash at them.

As I said before as long as B teams don't get in the way of the LL club's SPFL ambitions then they will all get along fine and be tolerated.

Possibility given the current economic situation for clubs currently it would not be a surprise that the entry fee for next season into the LL could be doubled for guest teams.

 

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30 minutes ago, approximately dave said:

I think it gets forgotten that B teams are guest teams who pay to play at level 5 in the Scottish pyramid. Each one has to apply before every season to enter the LL and pay a fee, last time it was reported as 40k. There is no guarentee that all 3 B teams will be allowed to compete in the Lowland League next season.

As long as b teams do not get in the way of LL clubs they will be quite happy to allow them to compete in their league.

If this scenario does come about it could mean the end of B teams in the Lowland League since it goes against the agreement the clubs made allowing B teams to compete in their league. Given the hostility from the SPFL clubs towards B teams especially Rangers and Celtic it's extremely unlikely the member clubs will allow either Rangers or Celtic B teams to compete in their league, even if both parent clubs wave great wads of cash at them.

As I said before as long as B teams don't get in the way of the LL club's SPFL ambitions then they will all get along fine and be tolerated.

Possibility given the current economic situation for clubs currently it would not be a surprise that the entry fee for next season into the LL could be doubled for guest teams.

 

LL Clubs aren’t happy tho.!

Vote was 8 each and only approved by the Chair. Most Clubs that voted for are now pissed off at Maxwell for promising a pyramid working group which has never met and now hearing that SFA and SPFL are going to make a proposal without consultation. The 8 useful idiots have served their purpose.

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right you all need to get this in your head.the old firm dont have as much power as you think.the power is held by the spfl as a whole.the pyramid revue that was promised by the sfa can happen anytime its just a audit into themselfs,by them selfs Maxwell never put a timescale on it.the colts will not be in next season that includes hearts.

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9 minutes ago, Brazilianlex said:

LL Clubs aren’t happy tho.!

Vote was 8 each and only approved by the Chair. Most Clubs that voted for are now pissed off at Maxwell for promising a pyramid working group which has never met and now hearing that SFA and SPFL are going to make a proposal without consultation. The 8 useful idiots have served their purpose.

Nah, can't see that happening if the LL gets fucked over. SPFL clubs will see the possibility of this happening to them next and will also face a backlash from their own fans whom they can't afford to lose. Clubs in the LL and the levels below will go to war with the SFA and the SPFL if they are all relegated down one level. It would be seen as betrayal of the pyramid and just destruction and ripped up season tickets everywhere.

 

 

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Last weekend I was speaking to an employee of the SFA (a former coach in the SPFL and LL). He had been talking to his boss about the B Teams. They both felt that neither Celtic nor Rangers were getting much out of the LL in terms of player development as the best of their players should be playing at a higher level. 

Despite their position in the LL they felt Hearts actually had the right approach in challenging their best younger players (typically, 4 or 5 U17s/U18s in their starting line up with more on the bench).  Some of those in the LL squad will not be available for the game at Tranent tomorrow as they are over in Spain with the first team squad (played against Blackburn today).

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2 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said:

World Cup come and gone. Croatia getting a 3rd place. Netherlands in the Qtrs.

This thread: 🤐

 

Netherlands got to the Final twice in the 70's, long before they introduced B teams.

Something to do with coaching wasn't it? Feck all to do with B teams as you well know.

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1 hour ago, Ranaldo Bairn said:

Netherlands got to the Final twice in the 70's, long before they introduced B teams.

Something to do with coaching wasn't it? Feck all to do with B teams as you well know.

I do. As the post was fishing for those B team supporters that kept using the introduction of B teams in the Croation & Dutch pyramids to support the Colts idea. But they've been silent this year.

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Just read an article in Nutmeg 25 by a Ross Hutton, Rangers fan, writing the biggest load of tripe you'll real on B teams, he's a fan boy as you'll see from his twitter feed @heartandhutts 

 

Basically, Cruyff invented them, they're brilliant all over Europe, and it's holding us back as a nation not to have them in the league system. It's the answer to all our ills. Yawn. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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This has definitely been a long-term goal of at least some people involved, but I don't see how they can possibly get it past the SPFL clubs. I could imagine several Premiership clubs obviously fancying it, but even for the likes of Killie, St Johnstone, Livi, St Mirren it doesn't seem to make much sense. Some of the League 1 and 2 clubs could be corrupted by a bribe quite easily I'd imagine, similar to the Lowland League ones, but it would be quite hard to get enough of them on board.

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