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7 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said:

F*ck off with this pish.

It's the same that gets said about the Reserve League. Yet was never backed when checking the results. Same was said about the Lowland last year and Rangers on "the Journey".

Right now they're kicked out after a season with no Reserve League or any formal structure to fall back on.

 

If they hadn't contributed to the demise of the reserve league by pulling out, they would have something to fall back on. Feck them. Maybe they should be pushing for its re-establishment, but they seem to be getting pretty much their own way at the moment and I'm sure they can smell League Two football. I give it three years, five tops, and they'll be in.

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7 hours ago, highlandcowden said:

why should  any teams that consistently opposed their inclusion feel embarrassed by such a scenario?

Fair point but it'll be an embarrassment all the same and undermine the concept of the pyramid. It's hard to take the LL seriously at the moment. I can certainly understand why current L2 clubs don't want to be dropped into this comedy turn of a division.

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25 minutes ago, Hampden Diehard said:

Fair point but it'll be an embarrassment all the same and undermine the concept of the pyramid. It's hard to take the LL seriously at the moment. I can certainly understand why current L2 clubs don't want to be dropped into this comedy turn of a division.

I think its more to do with them trying to get back into the spfl if they get relegated.there's 3 ex spfl clubs already there 1 in the highland league more than how the league is run.

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38 minutes ago, Lowland team said:

I think its more to do with them trying to get back into the spfl if they get relegated.there's 3 ex spfl clubs already there 1 in the highland league more than how the league is run.

Yip, I realise that but would you really want to be relegated into a league that's making it up as they go along? It needed a few years to build itself up, weed out the teams that simply aren't up to it and establish a decent reputation. That's not happening. Three colts teams this year, how many next year? "One year only" is now two years.  What will be pulled out of the magician's hat next year?

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27 minutes ago, Hampden Diehard said:

Yip, I realise that but would you really want to be relegated into a league that's making it up as they go along? It needed a few years to build itself up, weed out the teams that simply aren't up to it and establish a decent reputation. That's not happening. Three colts teams this year, how many next year? "One year only" is now two years.  What will be pulled out of the magician's hat next year?

Dont think its being made up as they go along.building up the league like any thing is work in progress.there was no play off for the champion club for i think 2 seasons.now there is,but only with a play off.there is relegation which happened this term.like it or hate it the colts are in for 1 more season only. for all that people on here say about the league if the s.f a were to say next season we will allow you to expand to a 18 or 20 team league many clubs would apply.

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4 minutes ago, Lowland team said:

Dont think its being made up as they go along.

Yes, it is.

4 minutes ago, Lowland team said:

there was no play off for the champion club for i think 2 seasons.

Nope, just the one season was missed 2019-20.

4 minutes ago, Lowland team said:

like it or hate it the colts are in for 1 more season only.

Exact same thing was said last season, and here we are with Colts in for a 2nd season. With no actual explanation for where they will go in a year's time. Based on what happened this past season they'll turn up in March 2023 with a new Powerpoint presentation and £64k buy ins.

 

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57 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:

 

Yes, it is.

Nope, just the one season was missed 2019-20.

Exact same thing was said last season, and here we are with Colts in for a 2nd season. With no actual explanation for where they will go in a year's time. Based on what happened this past season they'll turn up in March 2023 with a new Powerpoint presentation and £64k buy ins.

 

1 how!!

2 when the lowland league started there was no play off 

3 because its one more season as the reserve league is to start 23/24

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13 minutes ago, Lowland team said:

1 how!!

2 when the lowland league started there was no play off 

3 because its one more season as the reserve league is to start 23/24

1) Only became an opportunity because Tier 6 never declared a licensed champion. At one point would have been 19 teams last season if Kelty failed to win the playoff. Getting on the basis of one year was in part because of the Innovation Paper that would have seen SPFL reconstruction. Which never went anywhere.

Because of the making it up as they go along approach the SPFL/SFA are able to force changes to the SPFL Playoff midseason. The "one year" of colts meant scrapping the HL/LL boundary that most the LL had a couple of recent votes enforcing.

March comes along the Colts asked to stay for another year. Leads to vote of yes, which leads to a vote of no because there's 3 of them this time. Which leads to a vote of yes because of another attempt of reconstruction with no actual confirmation of changes.

2) Everyone knew there would be no playoff in 2013-14. Can't count something that didn't exist. 0+1=1

3) What's so different about the Reserve League in 23/24 that it couldn't have been arranged for 22/23?

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7 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said:

1) Only became an opportunity because Tier 6 never declared a licensed champion. At one point would have been 19 teams last season if Kelty failed to win the playoff. Getting on the basis of one year was in part because of the Innovation Paper that would have seen SPFL reconstruction. Which never went anywhere.

Because of the making it up as they go along approach the SPFL/SFA are able to force changes to the SPFL Playoff midseason. The "one year" of colts meant scrapping the HL/LL boundary that most the LL had a couple of recent votes enforcing.

March comes along the Colts asked to stay for another year. Leads to vote of yes, which leads to a vote of no because there's 3 of them this time. Which leads to a vote of yes because of another attempt of reconstruction with no actual confirmation of changes.

2) Everyone knew there would be no playoff in 2013-14. Can't count something that didn't exist. 0+1=1

3) What's so different about the Reserve League in 23/24 that it couldn't have been arranged for 22/23?

1 when the lowland league first started there was no promotion! also no relegation! for 2 seasons i think. Also no named champion or club with a licence to come up was and still is the rule.(dont think that will happen now)

2 for every rule change thats made the s.f.a need to sign them of.it wasn't the colts playing there were other rules in pack.one was to increase the league for 1 season to 17 to include boness as they won the eos.the west declared null and void.no champion.if kelty didn't go up then 2 clubs would have to be relegated.

3 there was only 2 teams ready to go. at that time 

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14 hours ago, Lowland team said:

.that stats both the OF showed in their presentation to be honest were very impressive.

Imagine believing whatever pish they put on some power point. 

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48 minutes ago, Lowland team said:

1 when the lowland league first started there was no promotion! also no relegation! for 2 seasons i think. Also no named champion or club with a licence to come up was and still is the rule.(dont think that will happen now)


There was no promotion and relegation because the league wasn't full and there was election into the league instead. The intention was always to introduce this since the Lowland was the first step in the pyramid being built.

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19 hours ago, Hampden Diehard said:

Fair point but it'll be an embarrassment all the same and undermine the concept of the pyramid. It's hard to take the LL seriously at the moment. I can certainly understand why current L2 clubs don't want to be dropped into this comedy turn of a division.

It'll be an embarrassment to the LL,to the Scottish football authorities &to the clubs that voted for this this year&last.the ones who've voted against this from day one will have nothing to be embarrassed about

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2 hours ago, highlandcowden said:

It'll be an embarrassment to the LL,to the Scottish football authorities &to the clubs that voted for this this year&last.the ones who've voted against this from day one will have nothing to be embarrassed about

Yip, you've just said that.

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https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hibs-swerved-lowland-league-club-27327507

Steve Kean was on Sportsound.

Seems like there might be a Reserve League after all.

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In all honesty, the main reason was we feel if we can play games on a Tuesday evening or afternoon, some of those against English teams... the 1875 friendly competition against Brentford, Middlesbrough, QPR, Huddersfield, Blackburn, different types of games as well as playing in the reserve league and cup, then also the UEFA Youth League.

 

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Most of the mistake has been deleted, but there's still screenshots. The Lowland League put out their opening weekend graphic fixtures. Which was picked up by the clubs and shared.

Nobody put too much thought into it being July 30th. Even though they've all been aware the season starts on the 23rd July.

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Ian Maxwell: "The Scottish FA will oversee a discussion in parallel to propose and implement a long-term plan with the objectives of optimising the pyramid"

Thomas Brown: "Importantly we now look forward to working with the Scottish FA, the SPFL and our friends in the pyramid to create some new solutions to some existing challenges which will provide a bright future at all levels of our game."

Neil Doncaster: "The SPFL will commit our energies to a process that will explore options and, hopefully, allow us to move forward various aspects of our game for the benefit of our 42 member clubs and Scottish football as a whole."

Couple of weeks go by

SPFL: Remember SPFL3 with B teams/Highland/Lowland teams?

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/spfl-reconstruction-faces-league-two-24338553

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53 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:

Ian Maxwell: "The Scottish FA will oversee a discussion in parallel to propose and implement a long-term plan with the objectives of optimising the pyramid"

Thomas Brown: "Importantly we now look forward to working with the Scottish FA, the SPFL and our friends in the pyramid to create some new solutions to some existing challenges which will provide a bright future at all levels of our game."

Neil Doncaster: "The SPFL will commit our energies to a process that will explore options and, hopefully, allow us to move forward various aspects of our game for the benefit of our 42 member clubs and Scottish football as a whole."

Couple of weeks go by

SPFL: Remember SPFL3 with B teams/Highland/Lowland teams?

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/spfl-reconstruction-faces-league-two-24338553

Probably both stenhousemuir.and stirling albion.these 2 try to stop anything.

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3 minutes ago, Lowland team said:

Probably both stenhousemuir.and stirling albion.these 2 try to stop anything.

With good reason. Its supposed to be a review of the pyramid. Not just pushing through the same agenda that's existed in the SPFL Boardroom since it near enough started. 

SPFL3 has been tried & failed in the past. 

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The last time they tried to inflict B-Teams into the league it did not even get as far as a vote as clubs/fans made it clear they did not want it. Hopefully it will end up in the bin for once and for all.

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