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Celtic and Rangers B Teams in League Two?


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On 08/06/2022 at 15:42, Kirk St Moritz said:

the LL now needs to make the very most of having the 3 x biggest hitters in the land inside the tent and to use them to try and effect the greater good for all levels of pyramid.

Sorry, but that's just idealist stuff that won't happen. Name one team in Scotland that is remotely interested in the greater good for all. And why should they be? I want my team to be focussed on getting better and up the leagues. The SFA  and SPFL have the responsibility for the greater good of all and we all know how well that works at the moment.

FWIW, is playing against the boys clubs et al of the LL going to improve the young Premier colts teams? I think not. A decent reserve league is a better vehicle but the OF pulled out of that, so feck them.

It wouldn't be so bad if the colts teams were restricted to players eligible to play for Scotland.

 

 

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I'm looking forward to a couple of years of colts in the 1-2-3 positions in the LL and the embarrassment that should be felt by the rest of them. 

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On 10/06/2022 at 15:00, craigkillie said:


They haven't been deceived though, they were promised a review and they'll get a review.

And that review will have a remit dictated by whom and the review will be conducted by whom?  See Westminster "reviews" for the ways to gerrymander any review.

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2 minutes ago, Hampden Diehard said:

And that review will have a remit dictated by whom and the review will be conducted by whom?  See Westminster "reviews" for the ways to gerrymander any review.

Well the last time they did a working group on this you had - Stewart Robertson, Gerry Britton, Steve Brown, Iain McMenemy and George Fraser.

12-12-12-12, Colts in the pyramid and strategic partnerships were the main takeaways from their Innovations.

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And that review will have a remit dictated by whom and the review will be conducted by whom?  See Westminster "reviews" for the ways to gerrymander any review.

This would already have been known to the mug clubs who voted for it.
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On 17/06/2022 at 11:45, Auld Heid said:

Its now a two tier league of poor teams playing above their level and competitive teams.

 

23 hours ago, Pyramid Watcher said:

This applies to most leagues.

I can't think of a similar other league in Scotland that this statement applies to. League 2 might have some teams playing above their level, but it's not a two tier league.

 

3 hours ago, EdinburghBlue said:

Good description of the Premiership 


It would be a terrible description of the Premiership, given that the second "tier" within the Premiership does not in fact consist of teams "playing above their level" at all, given that there is a long established route of promotion and relegation which allows for a reasonable flow of clubs. The teams placed 2nd-4th in the Championship all had a chance of promotion to the Premiership and were ultimately not good enough. It is fairly evident that the Premiership contains the best teams in the country at any given time.

The Lowland League, meanwhile, has several clubs who on footballing ability would be better suited to Tier 6 or even below that. The way Whitehill Welfare have plummeted like a stone shows that, and the same will happen to Vale of Leithen this season.

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20 minutes ago, craigkillie said:

 

I can't think of a similar other league in Scotland that this statement applies to. League 2 might have some teams playing above their level, but it's not a two tier league.

 


It would be a terrible description of the Premiership, given that the second "tier" within the Premiership does not in fact consist of teams "playing above their level" at all, given that there is a long established route of promotion and relegation which allows for a reasonable flow of clubs. The teams placed 2nd-4th in the Championship all had a chance of promotion to the Premiership and were ultimately not good enough. It is fairly evident that the Premiership contains the best teams in the country at any given time.

The Lowland League, meanwhile, has several clubs who on footballing ability would be better suited to Tier 6 or even below that. The way Whitehill Welfare have plummeted like a stone shows that, and the same will happen to Vale of Leithen this season.

Where there is money you will always have a two tier, or even three tier, leagues. Are you trying to say that this does not apply to the Premier League?

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1 hour ago, Arch Stanton said:

Rangers think their young players playing competitive fixtures against experienced pros in the LL will improve them.

But not as much as they think playing friendly matches against other young players will improve them.

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3 hours ago, Ranaldo Bairn said:

More of this sort of pettiness please. Make it as unpleasant for all 3 of them as possible.

It’s not pettiness. Either they are in the Lowland or not. They should not expect to be able to dictate when matches are played to suit their own convenience.

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6 hours ago, craigkillie said:

 

9 hours ago, EdinburghBlue said:

Good description of the Premiership 


It would be a terrible description of the Premiership, given that the second "tier" within the Premiership does not in fact consist of teams "playing above their level" at all,

If you have no chance of winning a league then you are playing above your level. When did anyone other than Celtic or the two Rangers last win the top flight?

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Heard that Chairmen of SPFL 2 teams have made it very clear to SPFL that they do not wish to be relegated to the Lowland until the current car crash of a league is sorted out. (No such reservations about the Highland.) So will be interesting to see how the review pans out.

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8 hours ago, craigkillie said:

 

I can't think of a similar other league in Scotland that this statement applies to. League 2 might have some teams playing above their level, but it's not a two tier league.

 

Arguably the tier above it is though. Or was, last season.

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1 hour ago, EdinburghBlue said:

Heard that Chairmen of SPFL 2 teams have made it very clear to SPFL that they do not wish to be relegated to the Lowland until the current car crash of a league is sorted out. (No such reservations about the Highland.) So will be interesting to see how the review pans out.

Not rocket science,

Doncaster and Maxwell will come up with a nonsensical plan which will be kicked out by SPFL Lower league Clubs.

Doncaster and Maxwell then blame Lower league SPFL Clubs for holding back Scottish Football.

In reality, Doncaster and Maxwell are happy because they got their paymasters Colts into the Lowland League which was the aim in the first place.

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13 hours ago, EdinburghBlue said:

It’s not pettiness. Either they are in the Lowland or not. They should not expect to be able to dictate when matches are played to suit their own convenience.

Given that their first team were given the ability to postpone fixtures for friendlies by the SPFL written into the rules, no doubt they thought this would be ok'd.  Ecstatic that they've been denied.

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13 hours ago, EdinburghBlue said:

If you have no chance of winning a league then you are playing above your level. When did anyone other than Celtic or the two Rangers last win the top flight?

So we should have a 2 team league?

It's fairly clear that basically the best 12 teams are in the top tier.

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4 minutes ago, MacDonald Jardine said:

So we should have a 2 team league?

It's fairly clear that basically the best 12 teams are in the top tier.

It works in the Scillies… 😉

What we need is major reform. We should learn from American Football and Ozzie Rules on how to make the game much more competitive. Struck by how many of those who watch lower league football how completely uninterested they are in the top flight because it’s so utterly predictable. 

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