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FROM TONIGHTS EDINBURGH EVENING NEWS
 

It comes after the 16 member clubs voted 8-8 in a secret ballot last night on a proposal to accept the trio. But it is a one-season arrangement only and talks have now started on a pyramid restructure to address concerns about B team participation.

 

The Scottish FA has confirmed that the three guest clubs are required to field seven players eligible for Scotland national teams in the starting line-up. Each guest club will also have to “provide funding to help develop the league and its clubs”.

The national governing body will also lead on a review of the pyramid structure, with recommendations proposed ahead of the 2023/24 season.

The governing body said in a statement: “In addition, the respective league bodies have agreed to participate in the Scottish FA's pyramid working group discussions aimed at providing a longer-term solution to optimise the structure and aid the transition of talented players between the ages of 17 and 21.”

Hearts B are expected to play home matches at Ferguson Park, Rosewell, home of East of Scotland League club Whitehill Welfare. Along with Celtic and Rangers, they will pay an entry fee of £40,000, an increase on the £25,000 that Celtic and Rangers were charged last season.

Member clubs had previously dismissed the idea, initially voting to permit only two guest teams in keeping with last season and then rejecting a 19-team league when three expressed an interest. But when faced with an ultimatum that it was all three or none, the issue was put to another vote last night.
 
BELIEVE THE VOTE WAS DECIDED ON THE CHAIRMAN`S CASTING VOTE
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If you're going to make it a 19 team league you might as well went with 20 and promoted Darvel Auchinleck and Penicuik to the lowland instead.This would have advanced Scottish football by years in one big swoop.

Open your eyes.

 

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2 minutes ago, Sparticus said:

If you're going to make it a 19 team league you might as well went with 20 and promoted Darvel Auchinleck and Penicuik to the lowland instead.This would have advanced Scottish football by years in one big swoop.

Open your eyes.

 

A bit of a farce if being honest, just makes everyone skeptical.  The first port of call from the Lowland League should be promotion and relegation, 2 relegated with both WOSFL and EOSFL auto promoted and the 3rd bottom of the LL in a play off with the two 2nd placed teams from the EOSFL and the WOSFL., The same should be for the SPFL2 and the Lowland and Highland Leagues

If anyone would be promoted to the LL then it would be Darvel as they played in the playoff to the league.

The pyramid system is working but is too slow and this carry on is making Scottish Football a laughing stock just because if greed and self interest

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"recommendations published ahead of the 23/24 season" is deliberately vague and is non committal to actual change.

The best case scenario coming from the above would be a vote sometime in the 23/24 season that would mean teams playing in the 24/25 season would know where their league position would see them playing in 25/26.

So minimum of 4 years to open up the pyramid......and even then it needs to get past the rigged SPFL voting structure.

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7 hours ago, Dev said:

Looking at what's been agreed it begs practical questions not only about what happens but also about WHEN. Part of what it says goes:

Following a positive vote, the plan commits to the following:

  • Celtic, Heart of Midlothian and Rangers will join the Lowland League for season 2022/23, creating a 19-team league for one season only. This will result in a 36-game fixture calendar.
  • The Scottish FA will lead on a review of the pyramid structure, with recommendations proposed ahead of the 2023/24 season.

 

If it is for "ONE SEASON ONLY" then the "RECOMMENDATIONS PROPOSED AHEAD OF THE 2023/24 SEASON" part doesn't make sense. This is because it suggests that the recommendations would come into being in time for the start of the 2023/24 season. To do that they need to be agreed ahead of the start of the 2022/23 season. This is standard practice. That's why leagues have AGM's etc to make changes to the structures, rules, regulations etc.. It is so that clubs/teams know what they are playing for i.e. promotions and relegations. This is even more important if there's to be any sort of restructuring of any of the upper leagues in the Pyramid.

The other take on what's been published is that it simply isn't for one more season at all because of the reasons shown above so it has to be for after 2023/24.

Either there's something not been said or someone who drafted the agreed plan does understand the usual rules and regs or ..........?

Boris had a better majority:lol:

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Nothing will come of this. 840111887_Screenshot_20220607-215723_SamsungInternet.thumb.jpg.d1c4ee52888f7b349927f2efb05abafa.jpg
There will be loads of meetings, prawn sandwiches, phone calls, cups of tea, minutes of meetings, promising leaks, etc, etc.......

......but yes ultimately nothing will come of this.
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Shocking decision from the league members to allow 3 colt teams to buy there way in. 
Didn’t think it could get any worse than the farce of letting the old firm in last year but they have managed to go one better.

You have teams in the tiers bellow, bursting there arse over a season to earn a chance of getting promoted. Clubs jumping through hoops just to get there liecences in place. And these cnuts just swan in with a bribe payment. No wonder league 2 will never open up direct promotion when the lowland conducts itself like this.

The leauge deserves every bit of ridicule and hate thats coming its way.

Turned into a joke. So dissapointing yet completely predictable to watch it unfold like this.

Im sure east kilbride would have been one of the driving forces behind it. They have been in the past. Fucking let downs.

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5 hours ago, FuzzyBear said:

Did Cowdenbeath and Tranent get a vote ?

So if it was 8-8 with the Chairman having a casting vote, Gala Fairydean Rovers effectively had two votes?

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What do these rats even want from their involvement in football.

Decent clubs want to represent their community and do their best to put a winning team on the pitch each week.   Voting for this serves neither. It’s incomprehensible to me how you can sell that out just so you can enjoy a couple hours similar to just buying a hospitality package?

1 minute ago, Bestsinceslicebread said:

Sorry who are the 8 teams who voted against it

Tranent
Cowdenbeath

Anyone else know who the other 6 are ?

Civil service are confirmed good guys.

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Neil Doncaster, Chief Executive, SPFL, added:

“The SPFL will commit our energies to a process that will explore options and, hopefully, allow us to move forward various aspects of our game that only benefit of 2 or 3 of our 42 member clubs while fucking over Scottish football as a whole.”

^ Fixed that word salad for you, Cockwomble ^

I see the LL blazers are peddling the "it's just for one season" pish again too.  Do they honestly think fans believe a word they say?  Bloody charlatans.

 

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3 hours ago, Deanburn Dave said:

"recommendations published ahead of the 23/24 season" is deliberately vague and is non committal to actual change.

The best case scenario coming from the above would be a vote sometime in the 23/24 season that would mean teams playing in the 24/25 season would know where their league position would see them playing in 25/26.

So minimum of 4 years to open up the pyramid......and even then it needs to get past the rigged SPFL voting structure.

This is something which anyone interested in improving the promotion/relegation situation with the SPFL2 and with the LL should be really concerned about. You cannot have change by the start of 23/24 unless it is all sorted and approved a season ahead. Clubs have to know which position in the league table means promotion/safety/relegation before a league season even starts. Sounds like they won't even start "talking" until after the start of 22/23 at the earliest so there's built in delay even if anything could be agreed. This sounds like a cooked up plan with the ball kicked into the long grass for as long as possible.

There needs to be change at the top of the SFA. It should be one member one vote at AGMs. End of.

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