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47 minutes ago, Marten said:

Officially, there are HL, NCL, ML & NJFA representatives on the PGB. In practise, PGB mainly deals with issues in the LL area (and I don't think they have done much since the WOSFL entered the pyramid), while any "north" issues are just resolved between the Highland League and 3 feeders.

^^^PGB deals with tier 5 and up so this seems unlikely. There is a non-professional game board where tier 6 and below are represented:

https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish-fa/organisation/strategy-structure/who-we-are/board-committees/

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32 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:

I said this when I first saw the rule. Guest clubs are not in "membership" in fact they're explicitly distinct from members. So the main rule is points against members H&A. Followed with potential tie breakers, of which Guest club points are the final tiebreaker.

That's not how it was intended, East Stirlingshire gaining the 4th SPFL Trust Trophy spot being the example, but it's the appearance given

Absolutely. In a season such as this, there’s a clear winner and that’s fine.

If one of the B-teams wins, with teams 2 and 3 being members but on equal points, there could be the following views:

- B-Team argues it can go into play off

-SPFL or Team 42 or HL team argues there is no LL Champion

- Team 2 argues they are the Champion

- Team 3, but who lost all four games against B teams, argues they are the Champion once games against non-members are disregarded

I suspect this is a case of squaring a circle. Because the issue wasn’t conceived when the pyramid was setup, and we’ve had recent years of Champions not being recognised, and B-Teams are complicating matters (and the rules changed again to accommodate) the whole thing is becoming messy and subject to challenge (irrespective of the intention of the rules or the relative strength of any argument).

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7 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

^^^PGB deals with tier 5 and up so this seems unlikely. There is a non-professional game board where tier 6 and below are represented:

https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish-fa/organisation/strategy-structure/who-we-are/board-committees/

Except that list is about 2 years old. I agree though, I don't think the Highland League have a rep on any board, even the non-professional one.

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2 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Except that list is about 2 years old. I agree though, I don't think the Highland League have a rep on any board, even the non-professional one.

Pretty sure the Highland and Lowland League are guaranteed a rep each on the PGB.

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1 hour ago, welshbairn said:

Can't find a list of the current PGB but I'm fairly sure there's nobody from the Highland League on it.

Finlay noble of Fraserburgh represents the highland league.and Thomas Brown represents the lowland league.

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39 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:

Pretty sure the Highland and Lowland League are guaranteed a rep each on the PGB.

 

26 minutes ago, Lowland team said:

Finlay noble of Fraserburgh represents the highland league.and Thomas Brown represents the lowland league.

Fair enough, I'm sure Finlay Noble would be a decent rep.

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1 hour ago, FairWeatherFan said:

I wonder what effort the SPFL Board put in to organising a Reserve League next season?

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Rangers, Celtic and several other clubs pulled out of the SPFL Reserve League before the pandemic. I think Hearts were still participating at this point, but it was essentially a rump competition even before 2020. The SPFL setting one up would have had no impact on this whatsoever.

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There is likely to be a Reserve League next season, although I don't know which clubs will be involved. It could just be the Reserve League 2 clubs, or a combination of both.

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1 hour ago, craigkillie said:



Rangers, Celtic and several other clubs pulled out of the SPFL Reserve League before the pandemic. I think Hearts were still participating at this point, but it was essentially a rump competition even before 2020. The SPFL setting one up would have had no impact on this whatsoever.

I remember it being pretty lively, with 3 SPFL reserve leagues running for years before Covid. Bookies were even taking bets.

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I remember it being pretty lively, with 3 SPFL leagues running before Covid. Bookies were even taking bets.

I remember trying to put a bet on Thistle reserves to beat Motherwell reserves when I lived in Albania only to be told that the match had already finished and Thistle had lost.
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What a total shambolic embarrassing mess this League is turning out to be. If the 11 clubs that voted to invite guest clubs had a back bone and a pair of …… and rejected the motion  the League would not be in the situation of opening up for further applications, and clubs who may not be in the LL next season having or not having a say/vote on their applications. It’s time to get real.

C’mon The Rose 🌹🌹🌹

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What a shambles. If they have accepted the Old Firm then they can't really reject Hearts. They should have rejected them all from the start. What happens when Hibs and others start applying too? 

It's quite sad how this has all turned out. A couple of huge decisions have gone the wrong way (increasing relegation places and having B teams in the league). To think that we could be looking forward to next season with two up/two down but instead there will be two or three colt teams and, once again, the possibility for 0 teams to be relegated. With Elgin City as perennial strugglers, it might not be too long until we end up with no relegation in a season for the Lowland League again.

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I remember it being pretty lively, with 3 SPFL reserve leagues running for years before Covid. Bookies were even taking bets.

My point is that Rangers and Celtic (along with Hibs and Aberdeen) pulled out of these reserve leagues in 2019. Therefore, the SPFL could run all the reserve divisions it wants, but it wouldn't magically prevent this B team issue from rearing its head.
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4 minutes ago, craigkillie said:


My point is that Rangers and Celtic (along with Hibs and Aberdeen) pulled out of these reserve leagues in 2019. Therefore, the SPFL could run all the reserve divisions it wants, but it wouldn't magically prevent this B team issue from rearing its head.

The lack of a reserve league gave cover to the Lowland League proposing B teams in the first place.

Hearts in their public quotes have stuck with the line that they'd prefer a reserve league to a B team. 

Nothing would stop the OF trying to get B teams into the pyramid wherever they can. The lack of an alternative continues to give them the excuse to pursue it.

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5 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:

The lack of a reserve league gave cover to the Lowland League proposing B teams in the first place.

Hearts in their public quotes have stuck with the line that they'd prefer a reserve league to a B team. 

Nothing would stop the OF trying to get B teams into the pyramid wherever they can. The lack of an alternative continues to give them the excuse to pursue it.

Agree with this, the SPFL and SFA are culpable in all of this.

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