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25 minutes ago, Pyramid Watcher said:

What is probably more if a salient point is that a fair few sitting on the PGB are also main board members, essentially rubber stamping their own recommendations.

PGB members are not a majority on the SFA board and SFA board members are not a majority on PGB.

I dont see any issue with the SFA board rubber stamping committee decisions anyway. That's what should happen in all but exceptional cases.

 

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12 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said:

PGB members are not a majority on the SFA board and SFA board members are not a majority on PGB.

I dont see any issue with the SFA board rubber stamping committee decisions anyway. That's what should happen in all but exceptional cases.

 

PGB - Petrie, Maxwell, Mulraney, Gray, Doncaster. All at main board meetings as far as I am aware??

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http://slfl.co.uk/member-clubs-canvassed-on-guest-club-applicants/

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The Scottish Lowland Football League board has canvassed the opinions of member clubs over the three guest clubs seeking inclusion in next season’s Lowland League. 

Last month, a majority of 11-4 indicated a preference for the continued involvement of guest clubs, having taken two weeks to weigh up and debate a presentation on the topic.

A formal application process was subsequently opened, with three clubs confirming their interest and intent in joining the league.

Cleary, the inclusion of three guest clubs would require the current format of the Lowland League to be altered, so the board has entered into a period of consultation with member clubs to gauge the collective appetite for such a move – while talks with other key stakeholders would, naturally, follow before any conclusion could be reached.

Whatever the outcome, guest clubs will not be eligible for promotion. Nor will they hamper the ability of clubs to be promoted to or relegated from the Lowland League.

Hey, everyone how do you fancy a 19 team league and a 36 game league season? Don't worry here's an extra £40k to soften the blow of all those extra midweek games.

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The only possible way they would not hamper clubs ability to be promoted or relegated is if playing the colts was optional, no points were on offer, and any bookings or sending offs against them were completely disregarded.

That's not even taking into account any injuries sustained in games against them.



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1 hour ago, Pyramid Watcher said:

PGB - Petrie, Maxwell, Mulraney, Gray, Doncaster. All at main board meetings as far as I am aware??

Petrie isn't on the PGB and Gray isn't on the SFA board.

The 4 members of PGB on the 8 member SFA board are Maxwell, Mulraney, Doncaster and Duncan.

None of which is any way relevant to the original point that the SFA and SPFL boards are not the same or even similar. 

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3 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said:

Petrie isn't on the PGB and Gray isn't on the SFA board.

The 4 members of PGB on the 8 member SFA board are Maxwell, Mulraney, Doncaster and Duncan.

None of which is any way relevant to the original point that the SFA and SPFL boards are not the same or even similar. 

Les Gray is on the SFA board, and Rod Petrie is on the PGB. The SFA website, where I assume you got the info from, is 2 years out of date. 
 

The point remains that members are allowed to rubber stamp their own decisions.

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7 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said:

Things were reviewed legally in 2021 over the interpretation of the rules. The rules will get nitpicked again if a Guest club wins. 

Of course all the press attention will be on that club saying they should be getting their chance in the playoff/SPFL.

 

Quick question to anyone who knows.

If a guest club wins, is the league standing with the guest club positions removed, or is it with all points won against those teams and their position removed?

It could be conceivable that option a) results in one winner, whilst option b) results in another.

The whole thing seems redundant

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18 minutes ago, Pyramid Watcher said:

Les Gray is on the SFA board, and Rod Petrie is on the PGB. The SFA website, where I assume you got the info from, is 2 years out of date. 
 

The point remains that members are allowed to rubber stamp their own decisions.

Mulraney is the chairman of the pgb.and in his absence rod petrie chairs it. the other members are highland and lowland reps les crey Hamilton used to be duncan fraser aberdeen.celtic ?

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20 minutes ago, Pyramid Watcher said:

Les Gray is on the SFA board, and Rod Petrie is on the PGB. The SFA website, where I assume you got the info from, is 2 years out of date. 
 

The point remains that members are allowed to rubber stamp their own decisions.

It says a lot about the SFA that Ken Ferguson is still listed on the PGB. 

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5 minutes ago, Lowland team said:

Mulraney is the chairman of the pgb.and in his absence rod petrie chairs it. the other members are highland and lowland reps les crey Hamilton used to be duncan fraser aberdeen.celtic ?

Can't find a list of the current PGB but I'm fairly sure there's nobody from the Highland League on it.

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8 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Can't find a list of the current PGB but I'm fairly sure there's nobody from the Highland League on it.

Officially, there are HL, NCL, ML & NJFA representatives on the PGB. In practise, PGB mainly deals with issues in the LL area (and I don't think they have done much since the WOSFL entered the pyramid), while any "north" issues are just resolved between the Highland League and 3 feeders.

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1 minute ago, Marten said:

Officially, there are HL, NCL, ML & NJFA representatives on the PGB. In practise, PGB mainly deals with issues in the LL area (and I don't think they have done much since the WOSFL entered the pyramid), while any "north" issues are just resolved between the Highland League and 3 feeders.

Do you know who the HL rep is? Can't find a current list.

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2 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Do you know who the HL rep is? Can't find a current list.

Sorry, I have no idea. I've seen floating around here a list a few years ago but I'd have no idea on whether or not that's still accurate.

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23 minutes ago, HuttonDressedAsLahm said:

Quick question to anyone who knows.

If a guest club wins, is the league standing with the guest club positions removed, or is it with all points won against those teams and their position removed?

It could be conceivable that option a) results in one winner, whilst option b) results in another.

The whole thing seems redundant

http://slfl.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/SLFL-Rules-Version-19.pdf

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I made a joke at Vale of Leithen's expense earlier, but the bigger joke is that would they get a say in this even though they are relegated.

While Cowdenbeath or any of the Tier 6 clubs that might be promoted and play in the Lowland League next season have no say.

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9 minutes ago, Marten said:

Sorry, I have no idea. I've seen floating around here a list a few years ago but I'd have no idea on whether or not that's still accurate.

It would send the Fort William global fanbase into a galactic heads gone if it's the retiring Highland League secretary. :lol:

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7 minutes ago, HuttonDressedAsLahm said:

Thanks. The final point looks like an after thought. 

A B-team winning the league would be messy. You can conceive of multiple views being taken…

I said this when I first saw the rule. Guest clubs are not in "membership" in fact they're explicitly distinct from members. So the main rule is points against members H&A. Followed with potential tie breakers, of which Guest club points are the final tiebreaker.

That's not how it was intended, East Stirlingshire gaining the 4th SPFL Trust Trophy spot being the example, but it's the appearance given

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