Jim McLean's Ghost Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 1 hour ago, AsimButtHitsASix said: Balls to the £40k. This is the real reason they want the Old Firm in aint it? Rangers and Celtic hastily creating roles called Vice President of Development Matches to be fulfilled by the two folk they send along to record the game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 15 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: Rangers and Celtic hastily creating roles called Vice President of Development Matches to be fulfilled by the two folk they send along to record the game This isn't a new. It's the same requirement they had for the past season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyramid Watcher Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 There are a lot of comments on this and other threads from fans of SPFL clubs, and I would like to ask them a genuine question. What upsets you more, the damage to the pyramid or the fact that it is Celtic and Rangers who are involved? I’m not looking for a battle, just genuinely interested in people’s point of view. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 15 minutes ago, Pyramid Watcher said: There are a lot of comments on this and other threads from fans of SPFL clubs, and I would like to ask them a genuine question. What upsets you more, the damage to the pyramid or the fact that it is Celtic and Rangers who are involved? I’m not looking for a battle, just genuinely interested in people’s point of view. Oh I can answer this one, its the damage to the pyramid, but its certainly exacerbated by the fact Scottish football is being ruined to suit their narrow minded shite. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 The damage to the pyramid, by a mile. The fact it is those two organisations benefitting from it just rubs shite in the wound. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 It’s the damage to club football as a whole(not just the pyramid). It’s just not a surprise the two clubs involved pushing their own agenda over the good of the game 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 It's the damage to the league. But of course whenever shite like this rears it's head, it's the OF and their hangers-on who're all over it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Vojáček Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 41 minutes ago, Pyramid Watcher said: There are a lot of comments on this and other threads from fans of SPFL clubs, and I would like to ask them a genuine question. What upsets you more, the damage to the pyramid or the fact that it is Celtic and Rangers who are involved? I’m not looking for a battle, just genuinely interested in people’s point of view. As others have said, it's the damage to the pyramid that's the issue. If Dumbarton wanted to pay £40k and enter a reserve team in a league that a club like, for example, Clydebank are fighting tooth and nail to try and win promotion to then I'd be pretty disgusted by the club tbh. I'm currently preparing myself to watch Sons attempt to maintain their third tier status again. When/if we go down then we can't just buy our place back in League One. The same goes for this. Why should Rangers/Celtic/Hearts/Hibs or Annan Athletic, Forfar or whoever be able to buy their way into a league, overtaking a host of clubs who are battling to win a spot in that league? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peternapper Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 As with the previous posters was happy enough with the idea of a pyramid to allow non league clubs to work their way up to league status. This should not be manipulated by clubs already with a league place. Have always thought that no club should have more than one team in the league system. it would appear the present lowland league clubs (some of them) have sold out that principle for what they see as short term gain. SPFL clubs have shown in the past they will not be so easily bought and hopefully that will continue. Eventually the Colts will lose interest & find some other league to play with. Still think SPFL club supporters should be doing everything they can to dissuade any attempt to gain league places & suspend play-off places availability from the lowland league while it is being bribed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 57 minutes ago, Pyramid Watcher said: There are a lot of comments on this and other threads from fans of SPFL clubs, and I would like to ask them a genuine question. What upsets you more, the damage to the pyramid or the fact that it is Celtic and Rangers who are involved? I’m not looking for a battle, just genuinely interested in people’s point of view. All of the above. As a United fan I want to have the opportunity to visit different grounds and clubs. As a football fan the pyramid is about the most interesting and exciting thing that's happened to Scottish football in years and its already tainted and the compromised for the benefits of two clubs. I'm also annoyed on behalf of bigger better clubs being denied their place. The whole thing is a stitch up. Imagine losing two Scottish Cup third round spots to allow B teams to buy in. Its that bad. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 It's kind of impossible to separate the two. Since the creation of the SPFL there's only been two clubs actively trying to buy a place higher up the pyramid than the lowest point of entry. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 When I say that I don't support B-teams in the pyramid at all, I will shock precisely no-one. However, if they are accepted, it should be at the bottom. Allowing the to jump ahead in this way is massively disrespectful to the feeder leagues, especially after the relegation vote. And in that, I would feel the same if Hearts and Hibs B were coming in.I would probably be even more pissed off if Dundee B and Dundee United B join the Highland League. That's because I think higher of the Highland League than the LL and obviously out of self interest being a fan of a club working hard trying to get into the HL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marooneye Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Marooneye said: University of Stirling are again keen to embrace the bigot brothers whilst also voting against increasing relegation places. Last night tier 6 Linlithgow thumped them 5-1 in cup semi. Shambles. Linlithgow have also played tier 5 Spartans and East Stirling away from home this season which resulted in two further wins for Linlithgow. As above. Admission to tier five of B clubs is a digusting kick in the teeth for all the clubs at tier 6 and below that have worked hard to improve facilities and get licensed in order to progress. It's pretty much a closed shop where protectionism and downright corruption is rife. The Lowland league stinks. Edited April 20, 2022 by Marooneye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Marten said: When I say that I don't support B-teams in the pyramid at all, I will shock precisely no-one. However, if they are accepted, it should be at the bottom. Allowing the to jump ahead in this way is massively disrespectful to the feeder leagues, especially after the relegation vote. And in that, I would feel the same if Hearts and Hibs B were coming in. I would probably be even more pissed off if Dundee B and Dundee United B join the Highland League. That's because I think higher of the Highland League than the LL and obviously out of self interest being a fan of a club working hard trying to get into the HL. The Highland League told Caley Thistle to do one, then changed the rules restricting loan numbers when Caley tried to sneak in the back door by lending Fort William 9 (eventually at least 11) players. Fort William were still shite. Edited April 20, 2022 by welshbairn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Lowland League and the OF B teams remind me of a fairly cynical couple - one obcenely wealthy and out for what they can get with the money, and another attracted by the wealth of the other and any prestige that comes with it. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razamanaz Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Pyramid Watcher said: There are a lot of comments on this and other threads from fans of SPFL clubs, and I would like to ask them a genuine question. What upsets you more, the damage to the pyramid or the fact that it is Celtic and Rangers who are involved? I’m not looking for a battle, just genuinely interested in people’s point of view. The damage to the pyramid - it's not a pyramid if you can buy your way in 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benidorm Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: All the #staunch LL owners absolutely choking for a chance to drink out the loving cup at Ibrox before the diddy club vs rangers b game. You only have to see the tweets from the likes of edubraves minded folks on twitter who’s ‘big team’ is Rangers to understand why they are such big proponents of this. Its absolutely embarrassing. Aye and the laughable reality is they'll instead be trudging out to somewhere like Dumbarton to watch their fraud squad get horsed in front of about 200. Prolly end up doing a Chick Young Only an Excuse and whipping a scarf out of their jacket on the sly tbh. Edited April 20, 2022 by Benidorm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornishman Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 On 19/04/2022 at 13:41, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: It would be terrible if people started boycotting lowland league clubs sponsors…. I suggested just that, a while back... except I intimated that organising a 'ring-a-thon' (where a group of people organise a telephone bombing campaign), so the sponsor receives a different complainant's phonecall every five minutes or so, might be considered. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 (edited) 20 hours ago, welshbairn said: The Highland League told Caley Thistle to do one, then changed the rules restricting loan numbers when Caley tried to sneak in the back door by lending Fort William 9 (eventually at least 11) players. Fort William were still shite. Yes, I know that indeed. That's one of the reasons why I think more highly of the HL than the LL. I can't see them changing now, so in the (thankfully highly unlikely) case they would, I'd be more disappointed than when the LL voted for B-teams, just because I wouldn't expect that from them. Edited April 21, 2022 by Marten 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowhereman Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 22 hours ago, Jan Vojáček said: As others have said, it's the damage to the pyramid that's the issue. If Dumbarton wanted to pay £40k and enter a reserve team in a league that a club like, for example, Clydebank are fighting tooth and nail to try and win promotion to then I'd be pretty disgusted by the club tbh. I'm currently preparing myself to watch Sons attempt to maintain their third tier status again. When/if we go down then we can't just buy our place back in League One. The same goes for this. Why should Rangers/Celtic/Hearts/Hibs or Annan Athletic, Forfar or whoever be able to buy their way into a league, overtaking a host of clubs who are battling to win a spot in that league? You're not old enough to remember but Dumbarton did try to buy their way in to the old first division back in 1970. But the football authorities ruled it out as unfair 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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