FairWeatherFan Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Pyramid Watcher said: They hide behind the Colts excuse because it suits them, wasn’t it Iain McMenemy who wanted a total block on relegation for years because of Covid? Relegation into the HL/LL. It wasn't about adding another national league. Ask SPFL2 clubs about adding SPFL3 with no Colts in the pyramid and the same playoff format as exists within the SPFL lower divisions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyramid Watcher Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, craigkillie said: I disagreed with the notion at the time, but it was part of a reconstruction proposal which would have seen teams added to the SPFL every year for three years, sadly including some colt sides. That sort of blows out of the water your suggestion that they would never vote for any sort of reconstruction. I would disagree, they have never really entertained the notion, regardless of circumstances. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pyramid Watcher said: I would disagree, they have never really entertained the notion, regardless of circumstances. And yet about 15 minutes ago you seemed to think they did entertain the notion? 18 minutes ago, Pyramid Watcher said: They hide behind the Colts excuse because it suits them, wasn’t it Iain McMenemy who wanted a total block on relegation for years because of Covid? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyramid Watcher Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 50 minutes ago, craigkillie said: And yet about 15 minutes ago you seemed to think they did entertain the notion? I’m sorry, I don’t think I say that??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Either he wanted to block relegation (as part of a reconstruction plan) or he didn't. Which is it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyramid Watcher Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, craigkillie said: Either he wanted to block relegation (as part of a reconstruction plan) or he didn't. Which is it? I think you are misreading this, my point is that their general attitude towards it is negative, there is always an excuse. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 General attitude has been a preference for another national tier or expansion of the SPFL. No Colts. No different than the Lowland/EoSFL happy with a West league. Maybe even a Tayside League. Just no SJFA. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) Perhaps the review should have started with tier 5 downwards. Every man and their dug knows the League Two clubs are not going to entertain change if it includes B teams, and by including the SPFL in the discussions (or trying to), they're deliberately trying to make it fail. False promises. Edited June 28, 2022 by Burnieman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowland team Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, Pyramid Watcher said: I think you are misreading this, my point is that their general attitude towards it is negative, there is always an excuse. Regardless of another league spfl3 without the colts.the spfl 1 and 2 clubs will vote no because that would dilute the payments they receive from the spfl and the sfa.both spfl 1&2 have a monthly zoom meeting among themselves to discuss various topics.it use to be ken ferguson of brechin who was their spokesman.its now the stenny chairman.the colts bit is just a red herring, get use to it they just don't want change they've just witnessed 3 of their number relegated and the 3 have never got back up at the first attempt lets see how cowdenbeth do this new term.imo nothing will change once the colts leave after this season.until at least another 2 or 3 get relegated and that will give approx 7 ex spfl clubs in the LL the others will have no option but to go for it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 If the SPFL, ideally, want tier 5 to be a "national" conference and the majority of clubs below would prefer a three way regional split* (like the Juniors once had) would that no be pretty easy to do? National league at tier 5 then North, East and West below? *This was said to be the preference a while ago anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC THE KNIFE Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 THEY WILL STILL BE IN LOWLAND LEAGUE THIS TIME NEXT YEAR WITH THE POSSIBLE ADDITION OF HIBS COLTS ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowland team Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 minute ago, MAC THE KNIFE said: THEY WILL STILL BE IN LOWLAND LEAGUE THIS TIME NEXT YEAR WITH THE POSSIBLE ADDITION OF HIBS COLTS ! Never!!! happen for another season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 24 minutes ago, AsimButtHitsASix said: If the SPFL, ideally, want tier 5 to be a "national" conference and the majority of clubs below would prefer a three way regional split* (like the Juniors once had) would that no be pretty easy to do? National league at tier 5 then North, East and West below? *This was said to be the preference a while ago anyway. Who is paying for that National League, and what happens to the Lowland League and South of Scotland League? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 42 minutes ago, craigkillie said: Who is paying for that National League, and what happens to the Lowland League and South of Scotland League? Asking who's paying for it is the same sorta question that came up with the creation of the Lowland League. Where there's a will there's a way, etc. The educated guess would be the same way the Lowland League was set up as it's own league with its own rules and sponsorship. The current WoSFL and SoSFL would drop down a tier below a combined premier league featuring teams from both. EoSFL/Midlands would do the same in the East and North/Caley would do the same in the North. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, AsimButtHitsASix said: Asking who's paying for it is the same sorta question that came up with the creation of the Lowland League. Where there's a will there's a way, etc. The educated guess would be the same way the Lowland League was set up as it's own league with its own rules and sponsorship. The current WoSFL and SoSFL would drop down a tier below a combined premier league featuring teams from both. EoSFL/Midlands would do the same in the East and North/Caley would do the same in the North. Why would anyone want this? The Northern pyramid is finally settled with the introduction of the Midland league which seems to be popular. The Lowland league are making a right arse of things at the moment but it will sort itself out soon enough with a bit of tinkering on promotion/demotion and getting the colts tae f**k. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Why would anyone want this? The Northern pyramid is finally settled with the introduction of the Midland league which seems to be popular. The Lowland league are making a right arse of things at the moment but it will sort itself out soon enough with a bit of tinkering on promotion/demotion and getting the colts tae f**k. Not sure that they would. Before the creation of the Midland League there seemed to be a lot of support for the three way split. You're right that that doesn't seem to be anyone's preference anymore. I was just suggesting *if* it were still a preference it would be an easy(ish) way to marry what teams below and above tier 5 favour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 There isn't going to be a new national feeder unless it falls under the SPFL umbrella. That would struggle to happen as the money would have to come from the top. Which is why Colts keep being dropped into near enough every reconstruction plan that includes the SPFL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatbadger442 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Today's news is entirely predictable. Indeed, was widely predicted. The only question that remains is whether Thomas Brown now recognises that his position has become wholly untenable. He has been made to look like a complete idiot. For everyone's sake, Brown, just fucking RESIGN. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowland team Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 57 minutes ago, fatbadger442 said: Today's news is entirely predictable. Indeed, was widely predicted. The only question that remains is whether Thomas Brown now recognises that his position has become wholly untenable. He has been made to look like a complete idiot. For everyone's sake, Brown, just fucking RESIGN. What news!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, Lowland team said: What news!!! The SHOCKING and COMPLETELY UNPREDICTABLE news that SPFL2 clubs will not even entertain any discussions, hence proving that the LL scabs dropped their drawers for nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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