The All-New Polis Discussion Thread

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6 minutes ago, Camster said:

job openings in the Ambulance service! 

Any reason you don't fancy going to the Fire Service after an initial knock back?

[Shandon Par]

[superbigal]

I have 2 close lifetime mates since I was about 5 years old who are in or were in the Polis. One is a current detective and the most sound and honest individual you could ever meet. The shit He used to put up with as a bobby in Kirkton Dundee always had me creased with laughter.
My other mate as a kid used to smash snails and crabs, put dog jobbies on the end of a stick and chase other kids.. He supported Rangers as a diehard and was at the front of the anti Catholic chants. Smashed feck out of some mouthy boy outside a nightclub in Dunfermline. Don't get me wrong as a mate he was sound. He ended up senior in the serious crime squad in London. He would have loved batoning protestors and rioters.
He moved to private security in the middle east. Probably cos he got a gun with the job.

[Jacksgranda]

Never had any bother from/with the police, and have had very little interaction with them.

 A BiL is ex RUC. Decent fella, although not exactly my best mate. An ex work colleague joined Glasgow/Strathclyde police - certainly doesn't fit into the stereotypical psychopath being depicted on these pages.

Traffic police were a bit snidey with me once, that was outside Elgin. On the other hand when one of my wheels came off on the motorway the traffic cops got me on the road again, maybe just to get a hazard off the road, but they did it. When we were having bother with our former foster son to the extent we had to phone the police they were always more than empathetic and restrained.

One of the (semi) regulars in my local in my drinking days was a policeman, gave me and a mate a lift home in the cop car one night when all 3 of us (including him who was on duty) were completely pished., so he's maybe not a shining example of an officer.

No doubt there are some absolute lunatics in the police, most of whom are probably restrained by their colleagues from going completely ballistic, how you get rid of them I don't know., certainly internal police investigations don't seem to work, as the police (understandably I suppose) close ranks and, as in the mafia, omerta rules.

[Sherrif John Bunnell]

I have briefly spoken to two different policemen socially. Both of them seemed to take great pride in what happened to Sheku Bayoh and one of them also reckoned that couple deserved to be left to rot in a hedge at the side of the M9 because they were a bit of a rough family and their car was uninsured.

[Busta Nut]

12 minutes ago, ThatBoyRonaldo said:

Aside from anything else are the police even that good at solving/fighting crime? I've never really dealt with them but the impression I get from some who have is that if you're the victim of petty crime as opposed to something relatively serious then getting them involved is probably more stress/admin than its worth.

I've reported my bike being stole out my shed and things like that petty crime wise. They basically told me they won't be doing anything, here's the crime reference number for your insurance. Ask about the local area see if anyone is selling a bike, if you see your bike out and about don't take anything into your own hands and call us.

 

Despite my views that most of them are basturds. I know a few folk who are in or were in the polis. Most are sound, most have left the polis since.

[latapythelegend]

Two of my best mates are police officers and are sound c***s. As is my Aunt who is in the dog section. 

Like any walk of life you'll get a percentage who enjoy the power and use it more than they should.. My logic is if they are short then they probably have wee man syndrome. The tall lads are sound. 

Comparing the UK police to other countries world wide - we are quite fortunate.

[Steve_Wilkos]

I read an interesting fact in the Guardian the other day:

"100% of popo would prefer to harass a motorist for going 1 mph over the speed limit that solve actual crimes."

Scandalous, but unsurprising.

[Steve_Wilkos]

Just now, latapythelegend said:

As is my Aunt who is in the dog section. 

I'm sure she's not that bad.

[PWL]

The sensible part of me says, like all jobs, there are good and bad eggs among them but it's the bad eggs you hear about. 

But then I see posts like this from the Scottish Police Fed chief whining like an bia-tch 

 

I then revert to the words of Messrs Eazy E, Ice Cube & Dr Dre

 

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17 minutes ago, PWL said:

The sensible part of me says, like all jobs, there are good and bad eggs among them but it's the bad eggs you hear about. 

But then I see posts like this from the Scottish Police Fed chief whining like an bia-tch 

 

I then revert to the words of Messrs Eazy E, Ice Cube & Dr Dre

 

Do you have to be in the police to join the federation? As all the senior federation people seem like complete idiots.

[Jacksgranda]

49 minutes ago, latapythelegend said:

Two of my best mates are police officers and are sound c***s. As is my Aunt who is in the dog section. 

Like any walk of life you'll get a percentage who enjoy the power and use it more than they should.. My logic is if they are short then they probably have wee man syndrome. The tall lads are sound. 

Comparing the UK police to other countries world wide - we are quite fortunate.

A lot of the policewomen I know are very good looking...

[Sherrif John Bunnell]

Hopefully Gregor Smith moves the police one place down the JCVI list every time one of them moans about not being given the vaccine yet.

[pub car king]

Few things about the police really.

1. They mostly deal with the shite that life throws at people. They meet a lot of people on the worst days of their life's. They've been battered by their husband or the chap at the door in the middle of the night to say sorry your 18 year old has wrapped their car round a tree and killed 3 people.

None of that comes with an instruction manual and how it is dealt with by any given Bobby varies.

This is not right but it is how it is currently.

2. It seems to me anyway the days of the police just dealing with crime and the odd accident are very much gone. Most police calls are now to mental health issues and domestic arguments over a lot of shit like facebook  disputes with their "baby daddy". 

3. Police senior management (not your average cops on the streer)  by and large are a lot of careerist yes (wo)men who would f**k over their best friend to get ahead.

4. The covid jag situation is about the police wanting to be vaccinated for their own well being. But equally they are in and out of numerous houses on a daily basis and come into contact with a lot of vulnerable people so the cops will be spreading it. So there is an element of protecting the public in this. I appreciate shop workers are in a similar situation but they won't be in a living room within a few feet of someone for a prolonged period of time. 

5. They're are some absolute c***s in that profession. Whether they were c***s when they joined or are now just dead inside from seeing years of human misery I don't know. 

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15 minutes ago, pub car king said:

. It seems to me anyway the days of the police just dealing with crime and the odd accident are very much gone. Most police calls are now to mental health issues

There is a really interesting initiative in San Fran I think where mental health crisis' are responded to by a crisis team rather than coppers. 

Seems to make much more sense and hopefully its something we see brought into Scotland not just to free up Police time but to ensure that people get the best help as fast as possible.

[NotThePars]

I'm sure many of them are individually good people but it's institutionally fucked and that isn't going to be solved by some good people working within it. I knew a guy who was by all accounts a smashing big fella but he works for the police in Fife and as far as I am aware has done nothing to challenge his colleagues that murdered Sheku Bayoh and did nothing to ensure his family get any justice for his death. 

Anyway I think any conversations about accountability are pointless while the head of the largest police fed in the country is led by the woman that oversaw the coverup and orchestrated lie of Jean Charles de Menezes's murder. 

[invergowrie arab]

My local policeman in the village used to stop us on the way to the woods and take all the spirits and tonic out of the kedger and then would let us proceed with beer and cider. Fair enough.

I also know one 16 year old with ADHD who is being charged with assault after coming across two off duty cops laying into a guy in Perth. Unknown to him who they were we pulls one of the cops off the guy.

Meat wagon turn up and two off duties get 16 year old lifted too. He is held overnight an questioned without his parents knowledge and without a lawyer (he refused one as he was scared shitless and didn't know what was going on).

His solicitors advice is now say nothing as he has told him cops will close ranks and will lie. It's endemic, even those who don't want to won't rock the boat.

[Genuine Hibs Fan]

1 hour ago, PWL said:

The sensible part of me says, like all jobs, there are good and bad eggs among them but it's the bad eggs you hear about. 

But then I see posts like this from the Scottish Police Fed chief whining like an bia-tch 

 

I then revert to the words of Messrs Eazy E, Ice Cube & Dr Dre

 

Cops referring to themselves as "cops" is such weird sad sack behaviour. Like the ones who wear the baseball caps by choice because they think it makes them look like they're allowed to use guns. 

[ICTChris]

American undercover police - Donnie Brasco infiltrates a highly dangerous mafia crew over the course of several years, helps dismantle one of the largest heroin smuggling, armed robbery and extortion gangs in the country.  Now lives under death sentence for life.

British undercover police - Jeans and brown shoes in provincial nightclub.

[GordonS]

10 minutes ago, NotThePars said:

I'm sure many of them are individually good people but it's institutionally fucked and that isn't going to be solved by some good people working within it. I knew a guy who was by all accounts a smashing big fella but he works for the police in Fife and as far as I am aware has done nothing to challenge his colleagues that murdered Sheku Bayoh and did nothing to ensure his family get any justice for his death. 

Anyway I think any conversations about accountability are pointless while the head of the largest police fed in the country is led by the woman that oversaw the coverup and orchestrated lie of Jean Charles de Menezes's murder. 

Ah that's the big one for me. They fed lies to friendly journalists, so now if you ask people what they remember about that incident they'll often say "wasn't he wearing a big jacket on a hot day? Wires sticking out? Didn't he run away from police and vault the barriers at the tube station?" That was the point of the lies - they don't care what the Guardian crowd have to say weeks down the road, so long as they can keep the average punter thinking the guy was shot because he was acting like a wrong 'un, they have a result.

We'll never know who told those lies. But what we do know is that Cressida Dick knew they were lies, knew it was officers in her team feeding the lies to journalists and did nothing to set the record straight. And it's not an isolated incident; after the Forest Gate shooting, when officers opened fire on a Muslim guy for f**k all reason, they alleged he had child porn images on his computer. Of course, months after the incident the charges were quietly dropped. It was just a smokescreen. Then there's the unlawful killing of Harry Stanley, lies were fed to journalists about that one too. I can't remember them all now but I'm sure there were others.

Cressida Dick learned her trade and was anointed by Ian Blair, who was dodgy AF. But politicians fawned over him, because that's what the voters wanted to see.