GordonS Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Oh, and in November the Met Police are coming to Glasgow for COP26. Yeah, there's no way a bunch of London pr*cks batoning protestors in Glasgow is going to go well. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 The days of folk automatically having respect for the local Policeman are long gone, and whilst some boomers will probably moan about this being down to society being full of "snowflakes" or some sort of similar drivel, it's largely down to a mix of high profile examples of the Police being incompetent or outright corrupt c***s (eg Birmingham Six, Guildford 4, Menezes etc), and interaction with them at a local level. The UK police do certainly seem to be heading in a sort of US Cops-type direction where they will absolutely refuse to accept any responsibility for wrongdoing/mistakes and seek to blame others wherever possible. I suppose the uniform fetishisation by bootlickers and tory politicians has probably given them an inflated sense of superiority as well, which is why they think they can just brazen out the clusterfuck at the Sarah Everard Vigil. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Cops tried to get me done with police assault once. My lawyer laughed at their version of events and told me the cops are serial liars in these instances. they never bothered their arse showing up to court for the first 3 dates and the day before the 4th decided to drop the charge for some reason. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, ICTChris said: American undercover police - Donnie Brasco infiltrates a highly dangerous mafia crew over the course of several years, helps dismantle one of the largest heroin smuggling, armed robbery and extortion gangs in the country. Now lives under death sentence for life. British undercover police - Jeans and brown shoes in provincial nightclub. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 I laughed too hard at that 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpar Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 I always liked a piece of poetry that someone had written on the wall at my high school that read; God made arseholes, big & small Dalgety Bay Polis, hired them all Most frontline coppers I've encountered have been decent enough, I remember being a stupid 16 year old and trying to sneak a couple of cans into Hampden up my tracksuit top, a copper just pulled me a side and said don't be silly, put those in the bin and get into the ground. The police is Fife however seem to be at best incompetent and at worse just plain corrupt, their handling of Sheku Bayoh's and a family friend of mine Colin Marr's death have shown this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Think I've only known two polis personally. One's a friend from primary school who's left the force now, the other left before I met him. Both good guys by and large. Personal experience with police has been mixed but I'd say most I've had interactions with have been fine. I don't think it's a questions of are >= 50% of police officers arse holes but that given the nature of their job, only a few arse holes can cause a disproportionate amount of damage. Are there a significant number of c***s on the force? Of course. Is there a culture of covering for pals when they've done something wrong? I'd find it very difficult to believe otherwise given that almost any group of humans would do the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 hours ago, invergowrie arab said: My local policeman in the village used to stop us on the way to the woods and take all the spirits and tonic out of the kedger and then would let us proceed with beer and cider. Fair enough. I also know one 16 year old with ADHD who is being charged with assault after coming across two off duty cops laying into a guy in Perth. Unknown to him who they were we pulls one of the cops off the guy. Meat wagon turn up and two off duties get 16 year old lifted too. He is held overnight an questioned without his parents knowledge and without a lawyer (he refused one as he was scared shitless and didn't know what was going on). His solicitors advice is now say nothing as he has told him cops will close ranks and will lie. It's endemic, even those who don't want to won't rock the boat. Unless he is still under the Children's Panel at 16 he is an adult and his parent's do not need to be informed that he is going to be questioned. If his ADHD been disclosed at time of arrest then an appropriate adult may have been appointed. It was common knowledge at one time that a firm of lawyers insisted that their clients always made a complaint against the police, whether justified or not, so that when the matter went to trial the lawyer could ask the police if they were the subject of a complaint by the accused and therefore cast doubt on the matter. If you want to hear lies told in court then you should listen to some of the lawyers and their excuses for their client's behaviour. "My client is not a drinker but he had two shandies that night" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Just now, Elric said: Unless he is still under the Children's Panel at 16 he is an adult and his parent's do not need to be informed that he is going to be questioned. If his ADHD been disclosed at time of arrest then an appropriate adult may have been appointed. It was common knowledge at one time that a firm of lawyers insisted that their clients always made a complaint against the police, whether justified or not, so that when the matter went to trial the lawyer could ask the police if they were the subject of a complaint by the accused and therefore cast doubt on the matter. If you want to hear lies told in court then you should listen to some of the lawyers and their excuses for their client's behaviour. "My client is not a drinker but he had two shandies that night" Yup, I already had this clown filed under Bootlicker 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, GordonS said: And it's not an isolated incident; after the Forest Gate shooting, when officers opened fire on a Muslim guy for f**k all reason, they alleged he had child porn images on his computer. Of course, months after the incident the charges were quietly dropped. It was just a smokescreen. Then there's the unlawful killing of Harry Stanley, lies were fed to journalists about that one too. I can't remember them all now but I'm sure there were others. Yep. As long as they can make some mud stick then they can act with impunity. Look at all the conflicting narratives about Mark Duggan. I have no idea about what happened when he was killed by the police but there's enough suspicion that he "deserved" it that people will completely abrogate any responsibility on the police for igniting the London Riots. ETA: Just noticed as well that fresh from her public apology to Ash Sarkar for calling her a nonce or whatever, Julie Burchill is now attacking BLM for vilifying the police who murdered George Floyd because he was violent to a woman. It's fine in the eyes of supposed radical feminists to support police violence if it's attacking who they see as justified targets. 38 minutes ago, Gordon EF said: I don't think it's a questions of are >= 50% of police officers arse holes but that given the nature of their job, only a few arse holes can cause a disproportionate amount of damage. Are there a significant number of c***s on the force? Of course. Is there a culture of covering for pals when they've done something wrong? I'd find it very difficult to believe otherwise given that almost any group of humans would do the same. Yep. It's also important to consider what the police are actually responsible for. They might tell these mythologising narratives about being the Thin Blue Line but they really are just there to protect property. It is so funny to me as well that "the police are just the protectors of private property and nothing more" is the dogmatic Marxist take which attracts ridicule from a lot of people AND YET what the f**k were the police photographed doing the day after the Sarah Everard vigil? That's right, surrounding and defending a statue of Winston Churchill from... Someone. Edited March 16, 2021 by NotThePars 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 45 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Yep. As long as they can make some mud stick then they can act with impunity. Look at all the conflicting narratives about Mark Duggan. I have no idea about what happened when he was killed by the police but there's enough suspicion that he "deserved" it that people will completely abrogate any responsibility on the police for igniting the London Riots. ETA: Just noticed as well that fresh from her public apology to Ash Sarkar for calling her a nonce or whatever, Julie Burchill is now attacking BLM for vilifying the police who murdered George Floyd because he was violent to a woman. It's fine in the eyes of supposed radical feminists to support police violence if it's attacking who they see as justified targets. Yep. It's also important to consider what the police are actually responsible for. They might tell these mythologising narratives about being the Thin Blue Line but they really are just there to protect property. It is so funny to me as well that "the police are just the protectors of private property and nothing more" is the dogmatic Marxist take which attracts ridicule from a lot of people AND YET what the f**k were the police photographed doing the day after the Sarah Everard vigil? That's right, surrounding and defending a statue of Winston Churchill from... Someone. I agree with the point you make about mud sticking and also learned a new word (abrogate)! I'm not making any counter points when I say this but i recall in a Skepta ft Giggs video over a decade ago they're doing a street video with all their mandem looking all intimidating in the background and what not and Skepta has a line "everyday I'm surrounded by killers" and the camera literally zooms in on Mark Duggan..I don't think the MSM ever got hold of that one! 5:10 for anyone interested. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonksy+HisChristianParade Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 I actually think compared to a lot of countries where I’ve experienced police (USA, Canada, Spain for example), the police here aren’t that bad. Quite a lot of them clearly get a bit excited over the sliver of power they have over you but, apart from a couple of bad experiences, on the whole they’ve been OK whenever I’ve come across them. They spend their careers dealing with the utter c***s that are the British public tbf to them, must be a nightmare. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, NotThePars said: ETA: Just noticed as well that fresh from her public apology to Ash Sarkar for calling her a nonce or whatever, Julie Burchill is now attacking BLM for vilifying the police who murdered George Floyd because he was violent to a woman. It's fine in the eyes of supposed radical feminists to support police violence if it's attacking who they see as justified targets. Ah, Julie Burchill... funny you should mention her, I was just reading this: Hatred is very bad for your brain. The terfs are against Reclaim the Streets too, because the organisers said it would be "inclusive". If you can't put aside your petty hatred for 5 minutes to join a movement like this... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 A lot of folk here saying their experiences with the police have been ok - how many of us aren't white British adult males with accents like most polis? My personal interactions as an adult with the police carrying out their jobs have been fine except for one time. That doesn't mean I have confidence that they wouldn't watch a couple of their mates kill a black guy and then join in the cover up. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 23 minutes ago, Stormzy said: I agree with the point you make about mud sticking and also learned a new word (abrogate)! I'm not making any counter points when I say this but i recall in a Skepta ft Giggs video over a decade ago they're doing a street video with all their mandem looking all intimidating in the background and what not and Skepta has a line "everyday I'm surrounded by killers" and the camera literally zooms in on Mark Duggan..I don't think the MSM ever got hold of that one! 5:10 for anyone interested. As an aside it's funny looking back at how the original grime superstars navigated the fallow period between the initial grime explosion and grime 2.0. Dizzee and Wiley managed to do really successful chart crossover hits and Skepta did this and All Over the House. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 7 hours ago, Camster said: I tried the fire service first but couldn't get in. That's unusual, they normally leave the doors open. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, NotThePars said: As an aside it's funny looking back at how the original grime superstars navigated the fallow period between the initial grime explosion and grime 2.0. Dizzee and Wiley managed to do really successful chart crossover hits and Skepta did this and All Over the House. Don't get me started on that subject, i could write essays! Skepta did a lot worse than this track, this was before he saw much success tbf, I got into grime at the time when they all sold out, I've been to see Skepta and Chip who are both two of the biggest in the grime 2.0 scene and when I saw them Chip was doing chart music and Skepta was doing a song where he wore make up and had a bird from Eastenders dancing around... I'm very salty about this. It's interesting to me how Dizzee did so well initially but has almost no clout in the 2.0 era and Wiley, well, great musician but an absolute mouth breather, his Twitter cancellation was quite a low point for myself and how I view Twitter tbh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 To be fair, one of my mates when I was wee had a porcine father. He found be drunk in a park one night at the age of 15 and gave me a lift home, dropping me off in the next street so as not to grass me into my folks. He was few and far between in my experience though. Some right dodgy c***s in Dundee. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 I honestly don’t think you would get that much of a powerful feeling of superiority in the polis based on the contempt so many of the general public have towards the force. The likes of that Aberdonian woman a few months back who was waving her finger in the police mans face telling him he better get off her property based on her skewed understanding of the powers the police have/don’t have seems to be the sort of things they have to deal with day to day rather than a feeling of power over the general public. Out of the police I know most of them just view it as a job with some perks and some shite just like any other job - you get a bloody good pension and you could live in a police house if your somewhere quite remote that you don’t have to pay rent or bills. I could think of worse career paths to consider tbqh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackdaybob Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 All coppers..... Are b*****ds Drive Audi's Or BMW's Voted no Voted tory Voted brexit Think that covers it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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