Bing.McCrosby Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 20 hours ago, Captain Saintsible said: We really need to have Ralston or Ramsey in the team against Ukraine O’Donnell is hopeless Agreed the closest O'Donnell should be getting to the squad is as a paying fan, miles off the standard now. But we have Hickey playing on the right in Serie A against the top Italian teams. Currently he's a better bet than Ramsey or Ralston. Probably Patterson too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Hickey and Patterson are completely different and it would change how we play quite a bit. You could imagine Hickey playing neat interchanges with McGinn and Gilmour but he isn't gonna stretch teams and cause the same disruption that Patterson does. I think it would make us much easier to defend against and there'd be much less of a crossing threat from the right, but Hickey might be able to find McGinn on the turn a bit more (although his forward passing on his right foot wasn't good the other night). He's clearly a better footballer than O'Donnell but Ryan Christie's a better footballer than McGinn and we all agree the latter's our best option in his position. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, accies1874 said: Ryan Christie's a better footballer than McGinn In which universe? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 In which universe?He's better technically 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing.McCrosby Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Just now, accies1874 said: Hickey and Patterson are completely different and it would change how we play quite a bit. You could imagine Hickey playing neat interchanges with McGinn and Gilmour but he isn't gonna stretch teams and cause the same disruption that Patterson does. I think it would make us much easier to defend against and there'd be much less of a crossing threat from the right, but Hickey might be able to find McGinn on the turn a bit more (although his forward passing on his right foot wasn't good the other night). He's clearly a better footballer than O'Donnell but Ryan Christie's a better footballer than McGinn and we all agree the latter's our best option in his position. Im not sure why it would, if anything hickey is the one who is proven he can play to instructions. So he could do what was asked of him. I thought he was very direct and attacking when he came on for us recently. And showed hes got alot stronger and faster. And no I don't agree that christie is a better footballer than Mcginn either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 1 minute ago, accies1874 said: He's better technically I'm not even sure I agree with that. He plays with more flair no doubt and they don't exactly play the same position but McGinn is a better all round player for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, The Moonster said: they don't exactly play the same position The position they have played lately has been the same on different sides for Scotland lately. The role both of them played against Poland was as close as you'll get to identical - holding up and linking play down the left and right respectively. Ryan Christie and John McGinn may have different strengths and weaknesses, but the role and position they played was remarkably similar. - in the same way that Tierney and McTominay or Gilmour and McGregor play in mirror image positions with similar roles albeit performed a little differently depending on individual strengths/weaknesses etc. Edited April 6, 2022 by 2426255 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabFC Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 52 minutes ago, accies1874 said: He's clearly a better footballer than O'Donnell but Ryan Christie's a better footballer than McGinn and we all agree the latter's our best option in his position. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 22 minutes ago, 2426255 said: The position they have played lately has been the same on different sides for Scotland lately. The role both of them played against Poland was as close as you'll get to identical - holding up and linking play down the left and right respectively. Ryan Christie and John McGinn may have different strengths and weaknesses, but the role and position they played was remarkably similar. - in the same way that Tierney and McTominay or Gilmour and McGregor play in mirror image positions with similar roles albeit performed a little differently depending on individual strengths/weaknesses etc. Fair points that I don't really disagree with but I'd argue McGinn has more versatility and his strengths are stronger than Christie's. McGinn can play anywhere from holding midfield forward and play well, Christie is a forward who does well linking midfield and attack. I like both players and they both bring quality to our squad but McGinn is a definite starter when everyone is fit, I don't think Christie is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawB93 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Christie is better at ballooning the ball over the bar from the edge of the box, I'll give him that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Fair points that I don't really disagree with but I'd argue McGinn has more versatility and his strengths are stronger than Christie's. McGinn can play anywhere from holding midfield forward and play well, Christie is a forward who does well linking midfield and attack. I like both players and they both bring quality to our squad but McGinn is a definite starter when everyone is fit, I don't think Christie is. Both are very good but far from identical players. McGinn has, as well as tricks and finesse, all the dirty stuff - the dig and nous that mean he can play in deeper midfield or up front. Most of all he brings a presence that Christie doesn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Maybe I should have said better technically than better footballer (not synonymous but that's how I used it) but I'm gonna stick with it and say you're all sheeple. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Christie is better at ballooning the ball over the bar from the edge of the box, I'll give him that.Good thing there were no fans in that stand to get hit by this effort [emoji1787][emoji23] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing.McCrosby Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Just now, accies1874 said: Good thing there were no fans in that stand to get hit by this effort Well that one clip settles that, mcginns obviously never scored a good goal. And Christie obviously has never ballooned a shot over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Tunbridge Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, BingMcCrosby said: Well that one clip settles that, mcginns obviously never scored a good goal. Stop lying you big phoney! Edited April 6, 2022 by Scotty Tunbridge -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 ITKs saying that Everton are holding emergency board meeting over Lampard’s future. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 4 hours ago, Donathan said: ITKs saying that Everton are holding emergency board meeting over Lampard’s future. Slight overreaction for not playing Paterson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 4 hours ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: The least he can expect for not playing Paterson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 18 hours ago, The Moonster said: Fair points that I don't really disagree with but I'd argue McGinn has more versatility and his strengths are stronger than Christie's. McGinn can play anywhere from holding midfield forward and play well, Christie is a forward who does well linking midfield and attack. I like both players and they both bring quality to our squad but McGinn is a definite starter when everyone is fit, I don't think Christie is. Agreed, Ryan Christie is not in the small group of definite starters (unlike John McGinn). Christie looked to have fallen down the pecking order somewhat with Che Adams joining the National team, but he has been pushed to the front of the queue because of Lyndon Dykes injury and maybe also Stuart Armstrong's injury after the Euros. I'm not sure what Steve Clarke will do if the squad is all fully fit - perhaps since we've started our last four games with one striker we will look to continue that in June. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 17 minutes ago, 2426255 said: Agreed, Ryan Christie is not in the small group of definite starters (unlike John McGinn). Christie looked to have fallen down the pecking order somewhat with Che Adams joining the National team, but he has been pushed to the front of the queue because of Lyndon Dykes injury and maybe also Stuart Armstrong's injury after the Euros. I'm not sure what Steve Clarke will do if the squad is all fully fit - perhaps since we've started our last four games with one striker we will look to continue that in June. We are light in midfield with 2 strikers and 3 centre halfs That's why Croats totally overran us Would welcome 1 up front with 1 off and if Tierney injured reverting to 2 centre halfs to load the midfield which is undoubtedly our strongest area Although not sure tactical flexibility will be way Clarke will go 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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